Tennessee Congressman Mark Green Discusses Double Standards in Congress and His Future Priorities

Tennessee Congressman Mark Green Discusses Double Standards in Congress and His Future Priorities


Live from Music Row Friday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed U.S. Rep. Mark Green (R-TN-07) to the newsmakers line.

During the second hour, Congressman Green weighed in on last night’s vote to expel freshman Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green from her committee duties while acknowledging the hypocrisy of the Democrats. He later discussed that he would be prioritizing legislation to win the House back, ensuring election integrity, and taking care of our veterans.

Leahy: Joining us now on the newsmakers line from the land of double standards in Washington D.C. our good friend Congressman Mark Green. Good morning, Congressman Green.

Green: Hey, good morning to you guys. Can you hear me okay?

Leahy: We can hear you. It’s a little crackly. But of course, why wouldn’t you expect it to be a crackly communication with you living in this very weird world of the 117th session of Congress. What happened last night with the land of double standards and the expelling of first-term Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committees in Congress? What happened there?

Green: Well, it’s pretty crazy. The hypocrisy from the left is I mean every day, I think it can’t get any worse, and then, of course, it does. She had made some comments in reference to the website QAnon, and this is all well before she was elected. She got up and talked a little bit about that of course on the floor and explained herself. Nothing compared to the riots that were incited by Pressley and others last summer. But here we are and we voted and it was barely passed because the Democrats barely have a majority in the House now. It’s just hypocrisy to the max now and it makes you sick to your stomach.

Leahy: Can you contrast this to I don’t know what you’d call the French Revolution-Kangaroo court session of the 117th session of Congress with the previous sessions in which you were a member of Congress?

Green: Well, I mean they have always been more than willing to bend the rules to fit their agenda. So even last Congress 116th when I was here my first term they’d bend the rules anytime and they would take stuff straight to the floor. Never going to committee. Bypassing rules. And they’re just doing more of that yesterday which was an excellent example totally against House procedure and took it straight to the floor of the House and was voted on just because they have a majority and can.

Leahy: What is on your personal agenda in this very weird situation where the left is exercising what Alexis de Tocqueville warned us about back in the 1830s? If you want to talk tyranny of the majority just take a look at what’s going on in the House of Representatives today. What’s your plan for the next couple of years?

Green: We could talk about legislative priorities. We could talk about overall priorities. Overall priorities being that we’ve got to retake control of the House because the House is a majority body basically meaning if you’ve got the majority plus one you rule. And you determine what goes to the committees and basically everything that gets done. So this is our number one priority.

And I think this is America’s number one priority and it should coalesce all of us together who love our country and that’s for the Republicans to retake control of the house. There is no other thing that comes close to that a part of that is election integrity. And that means two things. One, of course, doing everything we can with state legislatures across the country, and Republicans control 30 state legislators on both sides.

We’ve got to make sure that mail-in ballots and election integrity happens and that mail-in ballots never happen again and election integrity is reinforced. So those were probably the number one and number two. If you’re talking about legislative priorities, that gets more into the weeds, of course. But taking care of veterans. I’ve got some bills to do that. We have some specific needs at Fort Campbell in the Clarksville area.

That military base there needs new barracks. China. We have got to push back. China is the number one threat to our generation and I’ve got five bills to address that. I’m on the House Armed Services now and Foreign Affairs. I’m going to be the ranking member of one of the subcommittees there for our Western Hemisphere. So I’ll be meeting in National Security this Congress.

Leahy: Our listeners are hearing a little crackling on the line here and I want to explain what that crackling is. The crackling on the line is because Representative Mark Green is now in the land of double standards. That’s what the crackling is coming from. It’s that double standard that is emanating from the Democratic majority and Nancy Pelosi.

Let me shift the questioning here a little bit and I don’t want to catch you off guard but let me talk about some of President Joe Biden’s executive orders. Breitbart is reporting that yesterday he issued an executive order for this fiscal year to increase the number of refugees from the limit of 12,000 under President Trump to 125,000. Tell me what you think about this Congressman Green.

As I look at that executive order I believe that executive order is illegal. And here’s why. The Refugee Act of 1980 authorized the president to set a refugee limit once a year with a letter to Congress in September for the following fiscal year. The president at the time, President Trump issued such a letter and said the limit would be 12,000 for the fiscal year 2021.

As I read the law, there’s only one time in any year that the president can issue that letter and that’s in September in the last year of the fiscal year. President Biden’s executive order totally changes that law. Do I have that right? Would you agree with me or would you look into the idea that that executive order issued yesterday apparently by President Biden increasing refugee limits to 125,000 is in fact illegal? Have you had a chance to look at that?

Green: My team is already looking at it. I’m not an attorney so I have to rely on our staff for that. But they’re digging into that. I think it’s probably wrong on multiple levels and may be unconstitutional on more than one level. Unfunded mandates are I think unconstitutional when the federal government demands that the states do something. They can’t do that. It is fundamentally wrong to do that and not fund it.

When we take refugees into the state of Tennessee the education system and other services get taxed. And that’s why a lot of people push back on this. I actually thought that we should have locked the program in Tennessee. I’ve talked with the governor about that and he chose not to do that. But my thinking is we have a lot of people in Tennessee who have needs and we should take care of them first and then others second. I think the unfunded mandate piece of this is also a reason to say that it’s not constitutional.

Leahy: And I believe Congressman Green that you were in the state Senate in 2015, I think it was 2015 when the Tennessee General Assembly passed a resolution to sue the federal government on Tenth Amendment grounds about the refugee resettlement program. Governor Haslam didn’t sign on to that. That lawsuit was ultimately dismissed for lack of standing. Do I have that right? You were actually involved in that in the state?

Green: Yes I was. (Inaudible talk)

Leahy: Representative Green, the static from the Nancy Pelosi land of double of standards seems to be increasing.

Green: Sorry.

Leahy: It’s not you. I’m sure it’s the land of double standards. (Green chuckles) I want to tell you that I am saving something for you. In our studio today we have a big beautiful birthday cake for the Tennessee Star made by the Puffy Muffin in Brentwood. So I have a beautiful red velvet cake. It’s our fourth year anniversary of the online news site The Tennessee Star. We’re going to cut this cake. I’m going to save a piece for you. And then next time you’re in studio I’ll give you a piece of this cake and we will preserve it so it’s tasty.

Green: Sounds great. I love red velvet cake, and I’m excited about the accomplishments of The Tennessee Star.

Leahy: Oh well, thanks so much Congressman Mark Green, we really appreciate you joining us this morning. I know you have lots of busy things to do and look forward to having you here in studio again. Thanks for joining us.

Green: Sounds great. Thanks for having me on sorry about the static.

Leahy: Oh, that’s okay. We’re going to blame Nancy Pelosi and all the tyranny of the majority Democrats. Thanks so much, Representative Mark Green. Well, that’s a great interview but a little staticky there. But again, it’s the land of double standards. That will explain it all.

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Crom Carmichael Questions Unanswered Questions on the Capitol Hill Riot and If It Will Go Down the Memory Hole

Crom Carmichael Questions Unanswered Questions on the Capitol Hill Riot and If It Will Go Down the Memory Hole


Live from Music Row Friday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael to the studio who pondered several unanswered questions surrounding the riots on Capitol Hill on January sixth and questioned why there were not any questions into why standard command and control protocols in place.

Leahy: We are joined as we almost always are at 6:30 on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday by our good friend, the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael. Good morning Crom.

Carmichael: Good morning Michael.

Leahy: Now just to your left…

Carmichael: Yes.

Leahy: Is a beautiful, delicious birthday cake for The Tennessee Star made by our good friends at Puffy Muffin. It is a red velvet cake.

Carmichael: Oooh.

Leahy: With vanilla icing.

Carmichael: Yes.

Leahy: And then also orange icing for The Tennessee Star for four years. Four years of The Tennessee Star as the only conservative news site in the state of Tennessee. And during this coming break, we are going to begin eating this cake.

Carmichael: Oh my well, it’s exciting.

Leahy: It’s very exciting.

Carmichael: I can hardly wait.

Leahy: I can hardly wait, but you have other things you want to talk about today. You follow a fine conservative journalist, Byron York. And he has a communication newsletter that goes out regularly. Tell me about what’s in it today.

Carmichael: Well this one he’s talking about the capitol riot and how it looks like the way the Democrats are approaching it is that they’re really comparing it to, falsely by the way, to 9/11 as to how serious it is. And what it means and blah blah blah. So my guess is that I can I’m going to predict right now that next January 6 there will be a time of silence and all these other things to commemorate the so-called invasion of the capitol.

But what he points out in this newsletter that he sends out in the mornings is that a whole bunch of questions has not yet been answered. In fact, there are almost no questions that have been answered. And so what he did was he sent a letter to the Capitol Police and he said here’s a list of questions. Can you provide the answers? And here they are. How many Capitol Hill police officers were injured in the riot? What were their injuries?

What is their condition now? Did Capitol Hill Police confiscate any firearms from rioters? If so, how many and what types? What is the status of the investigation into the killing of Officer Sicknick? Now, by the way, we know he died. We don’t know how and what Byron York is pointing out is we don’t know the circumstances and we don’t know who did it. With all of that video footage that’s on the capitol we still don’t know who did it.

Leahy: That’s a very good question.

Carmichael: Or exactly what happened. Is there an autopsy report on officer Sicknick? If so, will it be released to the public or will his key findings be released to the public? What is the status of the investigation into the shooting of Ashley Babbit? Has it’s been ruled a justifiable shooting?

Leahy: This is the 14-year Air Force veteran who was shot and killed.

Carmichael: And she was unarmed.

Leahy: Unarmed.

Carmichael: An unarmed woman killed in the capitol. And then it asks, who was the officer who shot Miss Babbit? Did any other officers discharge firearms during the rioting? If so, under what circumstances? Did any rioters discharge their firearms during the rioting? If so under what circumstances? Now each one of these is a legitimate question. Even Chris Hayes who I consider to be a…

Leahy: MSNBC hack. Left-wing hack.

Carmichael: He sends out a tweet. I guess he can still do that. (Leahy chuckles) It remains deeply bizarre that there still is never been any kind of official readout of exactly what happened. How many people were injured? How many were hospitalized? How many police fired their weapons? Etc. All the standard stuff. And that happened almost a month ago. In fact, it will have been more than a month ago before the so-called trial starts in the Senate.

Leahy: Impeachment trial of former President Donald J. Trump now a private citizen.

Carmichael: But their whole case is that he incited a riot but there are no details as to what exactly happened other than you can absolutely see a lot of people milling around. You can see that. You can see a few windows being broken.

Leahy: Yes.

Carmichael: And you can see milling around. And you can see a person with his feet up on Pelosi’s desk. These are things that you can see.

Leahy: And you can see a guy wearing a Viking hat.

Carmichael: You can see a guy wearing a Viking hat which if he was incited to do that he must have had plenty of time to go home and get dressed up is all I can think. But the amount of detail on the riot that the Congress and the Democrats, especially think is worth commemorating in comparing to 9/11, there are no details.

Leahy: And those questions are just but a few. Our good friend John Solomon at Just the News has asked another series of questions about the command and control process.

Carmichael: Exactly. And that’s another great line of questioning because Byron York’s questions take place after the so-called riot started. What John Solomon is talking about is all of the decisions that were made within the two or three days prior to it because we now know the FBI has released information that says it was pre-planned.

Leahy: Oh, yeah.

Carmichael: And so all of the players knew it was pre-planned and they essentially did nothing.

Leahy: Nothing.

Carmichael: In fact, they might have even been proactively making sure that Capitol Hill was ill-prepared.

Leahy: That is how it looks to me, Crom.

Carmichael: Yes. And so if that’s the case in the commemoration over time, it will be very very interesting. In the book 1984, the main character in there has a job working for the state where he would take historical information and he would put it down the memory hole. He was one of the hundreds of people in this giant space that would take historical information and put it down the memory hole.

Leahy: So apparently there’s a lot of people in the Biden administration attempting to do just that.

Carmichael: And not just the Biden administration.

Leahy: Mainstream media and Big Tech.

Carmichael: And you’ve seen that for the last two years with the tearing down of statues. The changing of our education. Biden says that the 1776 Project will not be put in our schools but the 1619 Project will.

Leahy: Totally factually incorrect by the way.

Carmichael: Well, he who writes history sometimes gets to write the future. So what you have is right now is you have the Democrat Party and they’ve been doing this now for quite a while, doing everything in their power. And now they have a lot of it to essentially re-write. It doesn’t change history. It just rewrites it.

Leahy: Let me give you a little indication that perhaps that is backfiring. I’ll share this with you later. I just saw it last night. There’s a researcher we’ve talked about before George Barna who’s been a pollster researcher primarily focused on attitudes in the Christian world, but also crosses over into politics.

He just released a study from Arizona Christian University. And he’s a principal researcher on it. And what he found is that now today support for socialism in the country is at the lowest level actually has been for many years. It was 41 percent after the 2018 election. And now within a couple of weeks of Biden, it’s down to 32 percent.

Carmichael: Well, this is going to be what is interesting because the Democrats are moving so quickly and when we get into the second segment, I’m going to switch gears just a little bit on what they are trying to consolidate their power. And then the question is how do voters assuming that they get a chance to vote in two years, how will they react to that? And I’m not being facetious about that. It’s whether or not you may an election where one side is funded with billions and the other side is has been destroyed in terms of their ability to communicate or the ability to raise money.

Leahy: Or it could look like oh, I don’t know, an election in Russia where Putin always wins with 90 percent of the vote.

Carmichael: And all of his commissars.

Leahy: Or in Cuba, where 99 percent of the vote went for Fidel Castro.

Carmichael: Right. What I’m saying is we’ll see if they can because they are clearly attempting to. And I’m going to make that case after the commercial break. It’s a strong case. Let me just say this on the Capitol Hill deal. One thing that’s very important is that Biden did say that he would cease building the wall. He said he would stop doing that and that turned out not to be true.

Leahy: Because he’s building the wall?

Carmichael: He’s building the wall around the capitol.

Leahy: He’s got to protect us from citizens exercising their first amendment rights.

Carmichael: He has literally stopped building the wall pre-contract. So he stopped building the wall on the southern border, but he is allowing the building of the wall around the capitol where there is no apparent danger. But with the Mexican border, it’s obvious. And there’s a caravan on its way.

Leahy: They are going to let them all in without any coronavirus tests.

Carmichael: So let’s be clear. Biden does understand that walls do in fact do work. He’s just building it around the capitol.

Leahy: My little caveat would be those around Joe Biden may understand. We’re not entirely sure how much Joe Biden understands these days.

Carmichael: Fair enough.

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Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett: ‘We Are Rapidly Approaching the Appearance of a Banana Republic’

Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett: ‘We Are Rapidly Approaching the Appearance of a Banana Republic’


Live from Music Row Thursday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed Congressman Tim Burchett (TN-02) to the newsmakers line.

During the first hour, Burchett weighed in on what he coined the “snap” impeachment of President Trump explaining why it was Republican Liz Cheney who screamed the loudest as a personal vendetta in the name of her father’s failed war policies and Trump’s cut off of the industrial war complex. He also explained the danger that using impeachment as a political tool would do to future presidents.

Leahy: Our next guest is on the newsmaker line. Congressman Tim Burchett from the Second Congressional District in Tennessee up in Knoxville joins us this morning. Good morning Congressman Burchett. Thanks for joining us.

Burchett: Thanks for having me, brother. You can call me Tim.

Leahy: (Chuckles) All right, Tim.

Burchett: Whenever have anybody ever says, hey congressman I usually just keep walking because they’re usually talking about some 80 or 80-year-old guy shuffling down the hall. They’re not talking about me. So I just go with Tim.

Leahy: You are a guy who understands how the federal and state government works. You worked you you were elected to the state legislature in Tennessee, Knox County Executive. Now a member of the House of Representatives. What on earth do you make of this lightning speed impeachment of the president? The Groundhog Day second impeachment of the president yesterday in the House chamber? What was that like being there?

Burchett: Well, I’d call it a snap impeachment. It really was. And it’s just Pelosi playing her game. She’s just selling memberships. Her leadership is so inept and she is so, I don’t know if disheveled is the right word. She’s just incapable of leading and she has to have controversy because if not, they’ll focus on her leadership style.

She can’t run meetings. She’s just not capable brother. I mean she is awful. And so this is her sticking her finger in the President’s eye, and we all know it. It’s just inexcusable the way she acts and all her little stunts she’s been pulling as of late. Democrats use the carrot and the stick a lot better than Republicans. I know people who don’t care for her and her angry because all she wants to do is stay in power and that’s what it’s all about in Washington D.C.

It’s not about Democrats or Republicans are right or wrong. It’s about power who’s got it, who wants it, and how do they get it? And She does that very well. She rewards people very well and she punishes people very well through her henchmen and they are blindly loyal. And so you can’t really find much good to say about her actually. With her selling out to The Squad she has proven that she’d be a conservative if it would keep her in power. I’m convinced of that because she has no moral compass.

Leahy: Tim, this is not exactly what the founders had in mind when the Constitution was passed and ratified.

Burchett: No it wasn’t. They were supposed to have hearings. I mean even the hearings that Adam Schiff allegedly, you know facilitated before he and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee which was really just a rival between those two, and that goes back to my power statement with them cutting ahead of each other in the previous impeachment. This is just not anything that was ever dreamed of in any shape, form, or fashion. When I was in the state legislature, I remember one time I told the Democrat chairman I said I’m afraid we’re going to open up Ponderosas box.

Leahy: (Chuckles) That’s funny. Ponderosa’s box.

Burchett: That’s exactly what the Democrats have done. They’ve used it as a political tool and they’re not going to get the toothpaste back in the tube brother. Because from here on out somebody is going to have a difference with the President and they are going to say let’s impeach him. And then that’s the way it’s going to be. We are rapidly approaching the appearance of a Banana Republic unless we get some serious control.

And if good conservative people don’t get back to the polls, you know, this last election and I read that 25 million Evangelical Christians and over two million sportsmen did not vote in the presidential election. And we’re getting ready for what becomes of that but with the overturn of all three branches radical Democrat Party.

Leahy: What do you make of Liz Cheney? She’s number three in the House leadership. She was one of 10 Republicans who joined the Democrats in this snap impeachment. What is she trying to accomplish?

Burchett: She doesn’t like the president. And it goes back to it’s more about defending her father’s in my opinion, failed war policies. The industrial war complex, people say it doesn’t exist but brother it does exist. Let’s go to war. There is no reason for us to be in these far-fetched wars all over the world. Under President Trump’s leadership, we actually export energy now, which is just unheard of. Unheard of!

And there’s no reason for us to be over there. Now, you can’t always tell people to show me one East Tennessee boy or girl whose life is worth losing over what’s going on overseas? And that’s what this is about. You know Democrats used to be against the war. President Trump’s against war and bringing our troops home.

And now all of a sudden the Democrats are rallying for war. And that’s what this is about. I think it’s preserving her father’s legacy and it’s unfortunate because American boys and girls are coming home either still in body bags or mentally incapacitated. Did you know our military is in over 100 countries right now? 100 countries!

I dare say most of the people I know in Congress probably couldn’t name 100 countries. But it’s just inexcusable. And you know, they are trying to label this as some sort of freedom caucus thing. I was in the airport yesterday and there were 11 of us standing there and there were all ends of the spectrum. If leader McCarthy calls the meeting she’s going to have her work cut out to stay in power. I’ll just give you that.

Leahy: Yeah, well, it won’t break my heart if you and others kick her out of leadership with the House minority group there. You’re a political analyst as well as being a member of the House. I thought that, in my view, they only got 10 Republicans to join them after all of this, you know media onslaught against the president’s speech at that rally. I thought that was not a very strong showing in terms of the number of Republicans had that joined this effort. What what’s your take on that?

Burchett: That’s not a groundswell. It was very predictable who went and why they went. If you look at them overall except for Liz, they are in very close districts. Everybody in this game is a political survivalist, you know, the political animals. And they’re reading the numbers. And I don’t question them because I know them all.

But you know, it’s obvious they were under a lot of pressure. And some people never held office before. When I was in the state legislature, we get three phone calls now and I considered that a Groundswell before Al Gore invented the internet. (Leahy chuckles) I used to get three phones in Knoxville and I’d start sweating.

Leahy: Hey, last question for you. When all these controversial bills that they want to jam through for the left-wing agenda come up…example, there are arguments that they’re going to want to add the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico as states that would be one example. Of course, packing the courts would be another. Do you see any of the 222 Democrats breaking from the party line? Or are they going to all stick with the left-wing radical agenda?

Burchett: I don’t see any of them breaking from it. They’ll be in lockstep. Just like I said, carrot and the stick. The voters did you remember that because you’re going to see our power eroded just exponentially. It’s in warp speed right now because there’s nothing holding them back. And The Squad will be literally setting the agenda for the Democrat Party.

Leahy: Well we’ve got rough waters ahead. Congressman Tim Burchett, it’s great having you on the program, and look forward to having you back on again.

Burchett: You call me anytime brother. I love Nashville. I spent six years in the legislature and I love the radio. Keep it up, brother. The first amendment is a great thing when somebody says something you don’t like.

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Caller Karl Wins Bet with Leahy and Gives Political Advice to Republicans

Caller Karl Wins Bet with Leahy and Gives Political Advice to Republicans


Live from Music Row Friday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael to the studio and Caller Karl to the newsmakers line who suggested that Republicans could learn a thing or two from the Democrats’ relentless call action.

Leahy: Crom Carmichael is here. The original all-star panelist. There have been a lot of angry calls Crom. There have been a lot of unhappy and sad calls.

Carmichael: Sad calls?

Leahy: Sad calls from callers.

Carmichael: Is this a happy call?

Leahy: This caller is very very happy today. He is going to be delighted about what he’s about to tell us. Karl from Nashville. Karl welcome to The Tennessee Star Report.

Carmichael: What he’s about to tell you.

Leahy: Yeah, what he’s about to tell me. (Laughter) Karl, welcome to the Tennessee Star Report.

Caller Karl: In the words of the big guy in 48 hours, pay what you owe! That’s a classic scene. (Leahy laughs) The guy just ran his whole hand through the window and tried to grab Eddie Murphy through the whole window. That was a good scene.

Leahy: Karl, you and I have a bet don’t we?

Karl: We do.

Leahy: And the bet was who would be inaugurated president. How long ago did we make this bet?

Karl: It’s been three maybe four months.

Carmichael: It was before the election.

Leahy: It was long before the election. And Karl, the loser of this bet buys the other dinner. And you said, Joe Biden will be inaugurated president and I said Donald Trump would be. Do you have a message for me this morning? (Laughs)

Karl: You know what, I’m not going to gloat on that. I’m going to be a good caller and play to your format. And the question you asked earlier this morning about what do conservatives need to do? That’s a damn good question. And I’m going to answer it as a politician would answer it. I’m going to get really political with you here.

Carmichael: Let Karl answer.

Leahy: Carl answer. Go ahead. Answer the question.

Carmichael: I want to know what he says.

Karl: It’s twofold. Step number one. If you don’t like Stacey Abrams whatever. What she did was this. She was ticked off about what happened in the election in Georgia. But instead of pouting and taking her ball and going home, Stacey Abrams said you know what? I see a problem whether you think it’s a problem or not, I’m going to do something about it. So she did something about it.

Not only in Georgia but Stacey did something about it not only in Arizona but Nevada as well and Michigan and other states. She grew her organization and she organized and got disenfranchised people out there to vote. Number two, Republicans and conservative, you might not want to hear this. But you can’t depend on the Southern strategy anymore.

Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina in the old Deep South is waking up to a new reality. Black people are politically aware. And if you do not talk to people and try and get their votes and just try to depend on the majority of the country to push you over the top that’s not working anymore. That’s my two cents and my you know, my input here.

Karl: Do you have a political consulting firm? No this is a serious question.

Carmichael: Both of the things that Karl has just said are entirely accurate.

Leahy: Entirely accurate. Would you like me to introduce you to the people at the Republican National Committee?

Carmichael: He’s not interested.

Karl: They won’t listen. I mean if you see what they did and you know as well as I know for whatever reason midterm elections Black people tend not to show up. Special elections to be brutally honest they do not show up. But for whatever reason they are. And Stacey Abrams love her or hate her she has woken a sleeping giant. And there’s a lot of Black people in the South that do not get out and vote because the Democrats, I’m talking about their fault. Their ills.

They refuse to put people up for election in places that they think they’re going to lose. Jamie Harrison, The reason why he got so many votes in South Carolina is that he did something really really odd. He asked people for their votes in places that were not normally seeing a person like him as for a vote. And that’s what you have to do on the Democrat side.  They have to say you know, what? Why are we conceding Alabama, Mississippi, and Montana? Why? Ask for their vote and they may give it to you.

Leahy: Karl, I’m not joining but I think this is very sound advice that you are giving both parties. I think you nailed it.

Carmichael: He’s not giving the Democratic Party that advice.

Leahy: They are already doing it. It’s the Republicans that need your voice. (Chuckles)

Karl: The Democrats do need to go in other places in Tennessee to ask for the vote. You may be surprised that someone will give you their vote if you ask for it.

Carmichael: Do you think that Trump in 2016 did exactly what you are recommending now?

Karl: Listen, I’ve been paying attention to politics forever. What Donald Trump successfully did is that he said the quiet parts out loud and got people that normally say I’m not interested in this stuff. I don’t want to be involved in politics because they are all this that and the other. And you had regular politicians that will skate around things. Whether it was ugly, nasty, whatever you may think of what he said and how he said it. Right?

I always say this right here. There is no more conservative political person in this country than Mike Huckabee. And I’ve been listening to Republicans for 40-50 years that say they want a conservative. Stop putting RINOS in. we want a conservatives conservative. Well, Mike Huckabee was there running for president in 2015 throughout ’16. He didn’t get it. And there is nobody as conservative as that man.

Donald Trump beat them all because Donald Trump got out there and said the think the quiet Parts out loud. He didn’t use you know, the old dog whistle he used the bullhorn. (Leahy chuckles) A book that I read where a guy said and told the other guy to get out there and say something. You are allowed to be rambunctious. Sometimes you make sense. So go out there and say it and they might listen to you. He said the quiet parts out loud.

Leahy: Karl, we’ve got about a minute here. So you won the bet. You have won the bet! And I am going to buy you dinner. Now, do you want steak or hamburger? What do you want? You get to pick. Where would you like to go? We have to figure out when and where. But I am buying you dinner.

Karl: I am a patient man. I like steak.

Leahy: I’ll do steak.

Karl: Let’s get to the point where 4,000 Americans aren’t dying a day because of the pandemic.

Leahy: That’s a very good point. I have another bet that I have to pay off to a couple of friends. (Laughs) Some Ivy League friends that I will have dinner with. But we probably aren’t going to do that until the fall with those friends because they live out of state. What’s your favorite steakhouse by the way?

Karl: Remember when I told you when we made the bet. I’m not going to try and break the bank or be greedy.

Leahy: You won the bet. I like steak.

Karl: My favorite steak is a marinated rib-eye from Rafferty’s.

Leahy: Rafferty’s. Is that where you’d like to go then?

Karl: Absolutely.

Leahy: We’ll buy your favorite. I’m buying. But when do you think it’s likely? By the way, stay through the break because I want to make sure that Squeegy our producer gets your phone number. When do you think we’ll be able to do this?

Karl: You know what? When science says it’s safe. I can’t put a time on it. When science says it’s safe then we can do that. If we have to wait a year. Let’s keep breathing.

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Crom Carmichael Questions Unanswered Questions on the Capitol Hill Riot and If It Will Go Down the Memory Hole

Crom Carmichael Weighs in on Wednesday’s Capitol Hill Breach, Gaslighting the Public, and Invoking the 25th Amendment


Live from Music Row Friday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael to the studio who discussed how it was the Democrats that benefited from the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday afternoon.

Leahy: We are joined as we almost always are on Wednesdays by our good friend the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael. Crom, good morning,

Carmichael: Michael, good morning, sir.

Leahy: It’s a little snowy out there this morning. Did you have a safe ride in the snow?

Carmichael: Well the snow had stopped. You saw something I didn’t.

Leahy: Well, Crom I’ve been talking all morning about this. And I want to set it up by saying the event on Wednesday when the peaceful Trump rally on the mall transformed into something that wasn’t peaceful when rioters breached the Capitol rioters. Rioters, it turns out, and possibly some Antifa, possibly some Trump supporters. But nonetheless, the rule of law was broken.

And I’ve said it’s a watershed in this sense that our side of constitutional populist conservatives lost the moral high ground with those events. And the question that I’ve posed is what happens now with the conservative movement? Do you agree with me on the moral high ground issue? And what do you think happens now?

Carmichael: Well, I don’t know if I agree or disagree on the moral high ground issue because I think that there were some Trump supporters who are in the building. I think there were some Antifa people who were instigators of the violence first with the police and then and then the breaching of the building. The Capitol Hill police were strangely and completely unprepared.

Leahy: Strangely.

Carmichael: And when I say “strangely” and I’m putting that in quotes because I think that they were told to stand down and stay away and let the breach happen. because you have to ask yourself who benefited? Yeah who benefited from the breach of the nation’s Capitol. Who benefited? It certainly wasn’t Trump. It certainly wasn’t it wasn’t the Republicans. It wasn’t the conservative movement.

And so there’s a lot in history that is staged. I think this past election, there’s a great deal that we staged. And so do I think there were some people who were in the building? Yeah. Do I think they’re running around kind of having a great time? Yeah. Did they maybe break a couple of chairs and sit in speaker Pelosi’s chair? Yes.

Leahy: I’ve actually seen some reports that the person sitting in Pelosi’s chair was an Antifa person. I’ve seen those reports. I don’t know whether it’s true or not.

Carmichael: Well at some point that may or may not become a factor or not. I don’t know. But but but the bottom line is that the Democrats benefited from what happened.

Leahy: A crisis Crom is a terrible thing to waste.

Carmichael: Yeah. When you create the crisis. That’s part of it.

Leahy: Yeah, exactly.

Carmichael: And so and you know, and then the media called it just ignored what’s happening in the past. Now, I’m not saying all this in complaining because we’re at a point now where I learned yesterday at lunch where the term gaslighting came from. Do you know where it came from?

Leahy: I don’t I’d love to be enlightened.

Carmichael: There was a movie back in the I think in the 30s or 40s. An old movie where the husband wanted his wife to think she was crazy.

Leahy: Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman.

Carmichael: Okay. And so what he did was he would do things that were slight and imperceptible. And so then when she would comment on them he would say well that’s not happening. And so and so in other words, it’s one of those things where are you going to believe me or believe your lying eyes.

Leahy: Exactly.

Carmichael: So that’s what’s going on now in this country. I would also recommend to our listeners, my daughter recommended to me that I watch a documentary that’s on Netflix called The Social Dilemma. And it is a documentary with interviews of people with a little bit of drama in it. When I say drama I don’t mean drama in the sense of drama but how it’s done.  And that is how social media companies manipulate people’s thinking.

Leahy: And clearly happening.

Carmichael: And that they didn’t intend to do that when they started but now they’re being paid to do it. And these are people who used to work for these companies who have quit because of the ethical problems that they see.

Leahy: There is a professor at Harvard Robert Epstein I think his name is, who’s made that argument for like 10 years and said that Google for instance would be able to change like 5 or 10 million votes using those techniques.

Carmichael: Well, but I’m not talking about votes. I’m talking about thinking. It’s much bigger than voting. And so so I would encourage our listeners to watch it.

Leahy: It’s on Netflix. The Social Dilemma. I’m going to watch it.

Carmichael: Yeah, The Social Network I think was the movie about Zuckerberg and Facebook. But this is The Social Dilemma and it’s well worth watching because we are observing it in real-time. Then you move forward and it didn’t take very long after the Capitol was breached for them to move back into session go ahead and finish what they would have done anyway. And what Hawley was doing and what Ted Cruz was doing would not have changed the results.

Leahy: I use the term Crom, that process, I agree with you on that. I use the term almost akin to a kangaroo court in terms of the way they were looking at the evidence.

Carmichael: Michael there’s where you and I differ. If the outcome were going to be different it would have been done when the electors were voted on. That’s a job for the state legislatures. It’s not a job for Congress to overturn what the state legislators did. They voted for the electors. They sent them to Pence.

Leahy: I will make one little correction on that. The state legislators actually didn’t do that.

Carmichael: Well, whoever did it the envelopes got to Pence. He was going to open them. Nothing in Washington was going to change what was in those envelopes.

Leahy: That is a true statement.

Carmichael: Okay. So if nothing was going to change it, that doesn’t mean that what Hawley and Ted Cruz and the Republican House members when they objected to it and what they were intending to do was shine a light on the election fraud.

Leahy: And they said that. They were saying we don’t expect this will change the outcome. We just want to have the information out there.

Carmichael: And that’s all valid. All I’m saying is for people who thought that once the envelopes were in the Senate that what was in the envelopes was going to be changed by people in Washington, as much as I would like for it to be changed that wasn’t going to happen. So what did happen is because of the breach so-called of the Capitol, all of the House and Senate went to someplace safe. And then after the danger part was over they then raced back and finished their work literally in the middle of the night.

Leahy: Literally. And nobody was paying attention.

Carmichael: Nobody was paying attention.

Leahy: Because it was all about what happened from the breach.

Carmichael: Right. And so then they moved quickly to the next day invoking the 25th Amendment.

Leahy: Well, there were calls for the invoking of the 25th amendment by Democrats but not from the joint session.

Carmichael: No. But the calls were from the leadership of the Democrat Party. From Pelosi and Schumer.

Leahy: Shockingly Crom, we have a story at The Tennessee Star. I know this will shock you. Steve Cohen and Congressman Cooper here have called for invoking the 25th amendment.

Carmichael: Okay. So at any rate. So that is now happening. Then you have to ask yourself, why would a party that claims over and over again with a leader now president-elect Biden. Now president-elect saying that we need to heal and come together? Why would they immediately call for the removal of President Trump?

Leahy: I have an answer to that question. Go ahead. They don’t want to heal. They don’t want to come together. What they want to do is crush any opposition to their agenda.

Carmichael: Here’s what is interesting. I have some friends of mine who are Republicans. They have been supportive of what I would call the institutional Republican Party for years. I have no idea what they think of Ronald Reagan because I’ve never asked them because that’s a long time ago.

Leahy: A long time ago.

Carmichael: But to a person, they are very upset with Trump and have been ever since he’s been the president. And when I asked him why it’s always about his behavior.

Leahy: Yes. Okay, not his policies, his behavior.

Carmichael: Yes. But they can’t get past his behavior and discuss his policies. The Democrats on the other hand are exactly, as far as my friends are concerned, about exactly the opposite.

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Photo “Capitol Protest” by Elijah Schaffer.