Crom Carmichael on Senate Parliamentarian Ruling and the ‘Blue State Billionaires’

Crom Carmichael on Senate Parliamentarian Ruling and the ‘Blue State Billionaires’

 

Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael in studio to weigh in on the Senate parliamentarian’s decision not to allow immigration to pass through reconciliation and tax deductions for blue state billionaires.

Leahy: That is Senator Bernie Sanders, the Communist from Vermont. And he was hoping over the weekend that they would abuse the reconciliation process to put forth policy issues and get those approved without going through the filibuster.

Well, guess what the parliamentarian has ruled? Not going to let it happen. So that is a bit encouraging. We get into the weeds on this Crom But as it turns out, this reconciliation process is a way to avoid the filibuster in the Senate.

But you can only put content into those budget bills that are specifically budget and not policy. What the left wants to do and what Bernie Sanders wants to do is jam all these policy initiatives into the reconciliation. The parliamentarian we talked about this the other day, is the one who rules on whether or not they can do it.

Carmichael: In the Senate.

Leahy: In this instance, the parliamentarian ruled against what the left-wing wants to do. That’s a good thing. We’ll see how because they’re going to try this with everything to violate the typical regular order by which we actually make laws here in the country. So that’s a temporarily good thing. There are so many bad things going on Crom that we have to cheer those good things that happen.

Carmichael: That is certainly an important good thing. And I think there was that election bill HR1, and then the Senate bill one, and that didn’t go anywhere. And so then they did HR4. And I guess that passed the House.

And then in the Senate, they’re trying to stick that into the reconciliation process. And by the way, I’m surprised that the parliamentarian has said you can’t do immigration legislation in a reconciliation.

And I guess the historical nature of the way we’ve always handled immigration law has never been through the budget process. And so she’s saying, if I rule that you can do immigration, I’d have to rule that you can do anything.

Leahy: Exactly.

Carmichael: And so I’m guessing that the voting law, I would assume that under the same principle and all these other things that they’re trying to cram through in reconciliation if it turns out that the only the thing that is voted on is the amount of money we spend and the programs that we enact to spend all that money, and then the taxes.

And the tax rates that the House Budget Committee passed or the Finance Committee, whichever committee it is in the House, the taxes that they are trying to impose are not nearly as high as Biden has asked for. I’ve not seen whether or not the blue state billionaires are going to get their tax breaks back.

Leahy: The blue state billionaires. Now that Crom is a phrase that I rather like. Did you make that up? Blue State Billionaires.

Carmichael: If you think that’s creative, then thank you very much. You have a low bar.

Leahy: I do have a low bar.

Carmichael: That is alliteration. I call that alliteration.

Leahy: Because I’ve been writing headlines for stories now for well over a decade.

Carmichael: I would try to remember that rapidly. (Laughter)

Leahy: But anyway, I do have a low bar. I like the stuff you say, Crom. It’s interesting to me. (Laughs)

Carmichael: But under Trump, they took away the tax deduction on state income taxes from billionaires in the blue states and from every state. But it primarily affects the billionaires in the blue states. And Schumer was determined to get that back into the tax code.

Well, if you give the billionaires in the blue states, that tax break, the amount of money that you have to make up by raising taxes on non-billionaires is significant just to get back to even.

Apparently, I’ve not seen any reports but that doesn’t mean it’s not in there that the tax deduction Trump took away from the truly rich is being restored. And so getting back to the taxes, the top tax rate is going back to the Obama rate of almost 39.6 percent.

The corporate income tax is going up to I think it’s 26 or 28 percent. Capital gains taxes and taxes on interest and dividends are going up to about the 28 percent range.

Biden, on the other hand, wanted capital gains to go to ordinary income taxes and include the 3.8 percent Obamacare tax on capital gains. Which is rare but its still there.

Leahy: For those of you who only think of taxes in the days immediately preceding April 15th, capital gains are for investments. You make an investment in a company. And typically at some point, you may either sell it and make a profit or make a loss.

But if you make a profit, that is income that is different from ordinary income where you work at a job. Ordinary income that the highest tax rates can go up to a pretty high.

Carmichael: Under Biden, they want to raise the ordinary income tax rate to 39.6 percent.

Leahy: What’s the highest right now? 35 percent.

Carmichael: 35 percent.

Leahy: But capital gains tax on money you invest and then turns into a profit is 23 percent right now?

Carmichael: It’s 23 percent. But let me say this. I think that in revisiting the tax code, the unrealized gains on multi-billionaires need to be reexamined. (Leahy laughs) I’m just saying because they don’t pay any income tax.

Leahy: Yes. And so when you say unrealized gains, what you mean is if you make an investment in something…

Carmichael: These are the people who start the company. They don’t make an investment. They make a tiny investment. Bezos for example is worth a couple of hundred billion dollars. His investment would’ve been less than $100,000.

Leahy: Because of the way you set up a start-up company and the entrepreneurs get more.

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Washington Correspondent Neil McCabe and the Factors of Chuck Schumer’s Invisible Infrastructure Bill

Washington Correspondent Neil McCabe and the Factors of Chuck Schumer’s Invisible Infrastructure Bill

 

Live from Music Row Wednesday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed The Tennessee Star National Correspondent Neil McCabe to the newsmaker line to talk about Schumer’s rush to pass a blank infrastructure bill while coaxing Republicans to get on board.

Leahy: We are joined on our newsmaker line by the very best Washington correspondent in the country. He represents The Star News Network, covering Washington, Neil McCabe. Neil, good morning.

McCabe: Good morning, Michael. Very good to be with you.

Leahy: So I think you called it. Now, Chuck Schumer has a bill. He’s calling it the infrastructure bill. Apparently, it is a blank sheet of paper.

And it’s $3.5 trillion of spending, something like that. What are the chances of that moving through the United States Senate or the rest of Congress?

McCabe: Well, it’s a very interesting gambit. Schumer is forcing senators to be working in Washington when they don’t want to be in Washington during the summer.

Frankly, no one wants to be in Washington during the summer. It was practically designed by the founders who knew when they put Washington in a swamp, the point was to keep people away because nobody would want to be there.

Roy Blunt, who is one of the 10 most rebellious of the senators working with Democrats on this infrastructure bill from Missouri, basically said that he doubts that this thing is going to move forward because the bill hasn’t been written, as you said.

Schumer is trying to get these Republicans who are negotiating with Democrats on an infrastructure bill to be on the record, moving it forward as a way of showing their good faith.

So why should we negotiate with you if you won’t move the bill forward? So McConnell at the luncheon that the Republicans have every week urged his colleagues to vote against it. And we’re going to set to see, I doubt that the Republicans are going to go against McConnell on this.

There’s a lot of pressure – both Republicans and Democrats – to basically hold the party line. If it’s a procedural vote. When it comes down to issues of agenda or policy, there’s a little bit more play there.

But you’re really supposed to maintain party discipline on a procedural vote, and that’s what the filibuster is. And I would also say that President Donald J. Trump has been really negative about McConnell lately.

And I think that actually strengthens McConnell’s hand inside the Republican Senate conference because the Republicans are going to want to show some unity and sort of support McConnell. McConnell’s name might be trash outside of Capitol Hill, but among senators, they’re routing to him.

Leahy: That’s a very interesting point. Now, these 10 I don’t know. You call them the weak-kneed Republicans who are trying to, “negotiate with a blank piece of paper” that had been presented to them by Chuck Schumer.

I know Blunt is not up for reelection. He said he’s retiring. Are any of the others going to face primary challenges on the Republican side if they partner with the Democrats?

McCabe: Well, that’s going to be a problem. It will also hurt their turnout – will also hurt their fundraising. So even if they don’t get a primary challenge, it’s not going to be the same enthusiasm.

But a guy like Blunt retiring, Portman’s retiring, Toomey’s retiring. Bird is retiring from North Carolina. When these guys are retiring, that’s almost when they’re the most dangerous, because not only are they trying to set themselves up for retirement, but now they’ve got dozens of aides and a lot of their senior aides.

And they got to set these guys up with lobbying gigs and whatnot. So there are different provisions hitting in these bills that their staffers are the experts on lobbying on.

And so that’s why the lame-duck session is so dangerous. So these guys are on their way out the door and they’re plotting their retirement and the retirement of their aides. So that’s their incentive.

Carmichael: Neil, let me ask you a question, though. In order for Schumer to be successful in the vote, he needs to get to 60 total, which means that 10 Republicans would have to side with the Democrats against the wishes of McConnell. And I think the likelihood of that is one in a billion.

McCabe: Well, the other problem is that everyone understands that this is both. After the filibuster, Schumer doesn’t need the Republicans anymore, because then the bill just needs a simple majority.

And then, of course, it goes to reconciliation. The Republicans will only have leverage before the filibuster. And that’s why Schumer is trying to get it out of the way.

And Schumer is racing against time. It’s like the legislative season is over, and he’s trying to get something done when everybody wants to be back home and time is running out. As time goes on, the Democrats are losing their grip on Capitol Hill because everyone knows the midterm is coming, and they know that Biden isn’t going to be able to bail them out.

I mean, you see what’s going on with inflation? There’s going to possibly be a six percent increase in Social Security. Forget the budget ramifications of that.

But that is confirmation that there is serious inflation out there. That’s the highest increase, I think, since like, 1975 or something. It’s crazy.

And people are talking about lumber and gas prices. But when you see a Social Security hike of six percent, that gets people’s attention, and people are going to start saying, wow, what’s going on with this Biden administration?

Certainly, he’s losing on crime. He’s losing on the border. And he’s kind of bouncing around. People are trying to say, well, what’s going on with this guy?

Carmichael: What time frame do we look at here? In other words, you’re going to have this vote or you’re not going to have this vote. What’s the drop-dead date for Schumer?

McCabe: Schumer votes today.

Carmichael: The vote is today?

McCabe: Schumer votes today.

Carmichael: If Schumer doesn’t get to 60 today, then it’s dead the water. Is that right?

McCabe: No. What the 60 votes means, he ends the debate. And that means they can have a vote on the floor for a simple majority.

So if they don’t end the debate now, they can end the debate tomorrow. You can keep trying to break the filibuster forever. And so Schumer is just trying to do it now because he wants to get people on the record.

And he’s trying to goose the process and basically say to the Republicans who are negotiating, there are a lot of Republicans that want high-speed rail.

They want 5G. They want bridges. They want highways. They want ports dredged. So there’s a lot of Republicans who want some of these goodies.

But if they want it, they got to go ahead with the filibuster. That’s what Schumer is trying to say. Why should we negotiate with you?

Because if you don’t want to negotiate with us, we’ll just go through the reconciliation process and we don’t need you. It’ll be a smaller bill, but you won’t get anything.

Carmichael: But if they vote to do away with the filibuster without knowing what’s in the bill, then they’ve lost their leverage anyway. Is that correct?

McCabe: If they end the filibuster, they have lost all of their leverage.

Leahy: So it just makes common sense not to cooperate with Schumer if you’re one of these retiring RHINO Republicans who, as you say, are very dangerous at that time.

Of course, sometimes common sense and some Republican senators are two things that don’t always go together.

McCabe: Schumer is not in a position of strength. The reason why he’s pushing it now is that he knows that there’s atrophy to his ability to get things done. And he needs action on things.

Pelosi doesn’t have a care in the world. She’s going up against Kevin McCarthy, and she just runs circles around him. But Schumer and McConnell is a “Clash of the Titans.”

Leahy: A clash of the Senate Titans. And on that note, Neil McCabe, thanks so much for joining us.

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Star News Network’s Washington Correspondent Neil McCabe on S1 Fail and Biden’s Agenda Coming to a Halt

Star News Network’s Washington Correspondent Neil McCabe on S1 Fail and Biden’s Agenda Coming to a Halt

 

Live from Music Row Wednesday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed The Tennessee Star National Correspondent Neil McCabe to the newsmakers line to discuss the S1 ruling in the Senate, Biden’s failing agenda, and more spending despite hidden signs of inflation.

Leahy: On the newsmaker line, the very best Washington correspondent in the country, Washington Correspondent for The Tennessee Star and the Star News Network, Neil McCabe. Good morning, Neil.

McCabe: Michael, very good to be with you, sir.

Leahy: Big news last night. S1, the Corrupt Politicians Act, or, as the Democrats call it, the For the People Act, would have nationalized all elections went down in the Senate on a filibuster vote was 50 to 50, purely partisan.

All the Democrats voted for it. All the Republicans voted against it. It didn’t reach the 60 vote threshold. That deal is done. What do you make of that, Neil McCabe?

McCabe: I think what we have to recognize is that the entire Biden program is coming to an all-stop. Let’s just go through a shortlist. You may come up with something else but think of all of the things we were worried about on January 20. D.C. statehood, Puerto Rican statehood, packing the Supreme Court, ending the filibuster, the federal takeover of local voting prerogatives, increasing the taxability or getting rid of the cap on the tax-deductibility of local and state taxes, raising capital gains, bringing back the estate tax, and the infrastructure bill.

And we’ve got a Senate that now is taking off for two weeks. We basically have a House of Representatives that will be voting through July first. Then they’re taking a two-week break. They’ll be back from July 19 to the 30.

And then after July 30, they’ll be gone, in effect, except for sort of committee work, they will be gone from July 30th to September 20th when they will be back in town for the budget cut.

The Democrats still have the opportunity to use the reconciliation process. You’re allowed one bite of the apple and basically, you are allowed to pass a budget that is exempt from sort of the filibuster and other procedures. It’s a privileged motion because you don’t want someone to be able to stop the federal budget.

But that’s there. They have one bite of the apple and you can only do so much. And we saw that the restrictions on the reconciliation rule and why we didn’t get as big a pot from the 2017 tax bill, because that was passed through reconciliation. So that’s basically the state of play right now, Mike.

Leahy: Neil, let me ask you this question. So the legislative agenda of Joe Biden is stalled, but Crom thinks that’s a head fake. Why don’t you pose your question to Neil about that?

Carmichael: Neil, the administrative state is forcing many of the issues forward that the hard left would like to see pass in legislation. They’re doing it through the administrative state.

For example, when the Secretary of Defense, often unilaterally just came out and said that the Court of Military Justice and that whole procedure will now not apply to cases of sexual harassment in the military that will move over to the Department of Justice and out of the purview of the military.

He did that on his own with a stroke of a pen. There are corporations all across this country, I mean, thousands of corporations that are being forced to have sessions where white employees are being shamed by Black employees.

These are meetings and Zoom calls where Black employees are actually encouraged to tell white employees how terrible they are as people under critical race theory. And that’s going on because it’s being forced on companies and banks.

And the FDIC is using its power to tell banks who to lend money to, who not to lend money to, and under the threat of having bank examiners race in and wreck the banks.

Leahy: So what do you think about that, Neil?

McCabe: Well, listen, the great Andrew Breitbart said that the media is more powerful than the government, and the media is controlled by the left. And the media has created that permissive environment where all of these things can happen.

And that is true. And, yes, the president has enormous power to do things administratively. And Biden has a unified administration. He doesn’t have what we had for the previous four years which is Donald Trump and a bunch of establishment Republicans.

Because Trump tried to run a coalition government with the Republican establishment, and the Republican establishment basically blocked him at every turn. All of the leaks coming out of the Trump White House were about how bad Trump is.

Whereas, like I said last week, all the leaks coming out of the Biden White House are factions, one faction versus another faction. But nobody’s saying we are defending America from this crazy President.

Which is what Trump’s own people were saying. I would say the vast majority of Trump’s staff was working against him. And so he was not able to exercise that extreme power that he has as the executive.

In the next midterm, the Republicans take back the House, and the Republicans probably pick up three Senate seats and things change. And when you control the House and the Senate, you can then restrict the presidency and the administrative state.

And I like what Senator Inslee said. He said hey, instead of making a one-term President will make him a half-term President. And I think that’s basically the mindset. But, you know, it’s up to the Republicans.

Basically, if McCarthy flipped five Democrats will become Republicans today, he would be the Speaker of the House today. He does not act like a guy who is within five seats of becoming the third most powerful person in the government. And that’s the problem. He’s trying to run out the clock. He’s got three and half years to go.

Carmichael: Let me ask you a quick question. When we get to September, will we have a giant budget that passes or we have a continuing resolution?

McCabe: They’re going to have continuing resolutions. And it’s going to stop and start from, say, the end of September to Columbus Day from Columbus Day of Veterans Day from Veterans Day to Thanksgiving.

And then they’ll sort of careening into the end of the year. And when all of these Congressmen and senators have to go home and they start to whiff the jet fumes from Reagan Airport, they’ll just pass whatever they have to pass to get out of town.

Leahy: Yeah, it’s the get out of town and pass whatever is in front of me by Congress. Go ahead.

Carmichael: I guess what I’m asking is Biden’s got a 6 trillion dollar budget that he’s put in front of the House. Will a 6 trillion dollar budget eventually pass in December?

McCabe: The Democrats and the Republicans will write a 6 trillion dollar budget. And there may be something of Biden’s priorities in there but it’s just going to be a continuation of the same.

And they’re going to pile on because there is a permissive environment for spending right now. And you’re going to see this empire strikes back on inflation is incredible. Read all the articles telling you that inflation is not a problem.

And it’s like a lot of people in Washington know that inflation is a problem. Let’s just get one more budget in before people figure it out.

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National Correspondent Neil McCabe Weighs in on the Mental State of the U.S. House and Senate in Washington

National Correspondent Neil McCabe Weighs in on the Mental State of the U.S. House and Senate in Washington

 

Live from Music Row Wednesday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed Tennessee Star National Correspondent Neil McCabe to the newsmakers line to breakdown what he see’s going on in Washington as House and Senate members and leaders show signs of wear and tear.

Leahy: We are joined as we almost always are every Wednesday at 7:15 by our Washington correspondent, Neil McCabe, the best Washington correspondent in the country in my view. Neil, good morning.

McCabe: Yeah, almost always, Mike. (Leahy laughs) That’s pretty good.

Leahy: Well, Washington is crazy. (McCabe chuckles) And the House of Representatives and Senate, they’re crazy. When last we talked here last week, you said there’s a possibility that the very narrow margin by which the Democrats control the House of Representatives is perhaps fraying a bit. There are four special elections going on right now. One in Louisiana, one in New Mexico, one in Texas, one in Ohio. One of those seats was occupied by a Republican, three by a Democrat. Do you see any of those outcomes having an impact that could change the narrow majority Democrats have in the House?

McCabe: I don’t see much changing in those because the people who control the appointments for the Biden administration were very careful to pick people from very safe districts. And that’s one of the reasons why you didn’t see a lot of senators joining the Biden administration. But what I think you’re going to start seeing as you already saw with that the way that Pelosi was challenging the election in Iowa, you saw that there were House Democrats who are like, going, whoa, that’s a step too far.

We already know that after the 2020 election there was that conference call with the House Democrats where you had a number of House Democrats who barely won their seats saying that this socialism and defunding the police almost put me out of business. We’ve got to stop. And so the fissures are there. It’s just, can it be exploited? And the biggest thing that Nancy Pelosi has going for her is that Kevin McCarthy is being more reactive.

He’s waiting for Pelosi to do something and then he’s criticizing it. He’s not coming forward with his own sort of agenda. And remember, there was a rebellion with Liz Cheney and others voting to impeach President Trump, and Kevin McCarthy has done nothing to punish them. And you must feel it, Mike.

I’m sure people listening feel it. The Republican House leadership as a press conference and Liz Cheney is the one giving statements on behalf. Mccarthy still continues to put Liz Cheney out front as a spokeswoman for the party, and it just confuses people. So it’s really McCarthy’s game to lose and he could lose it. But having said that, five seats are very tight. And there’s a lot of people who don’t want to go down with the Pelosi ship.

Leahy: Shifting gears to the United States Senate for a moment, so the Corrupt Politicians Act, which would codify the ability of Democrats to cheat in elections and would attempt unconstitutionally, in my view, to nationalize elections, where does that stand? Is it likely to pass? What’s the status of that?

McCabe: Well, I think it’s interesting that Joe Manchin has said that it’s a problem for him. I think that you’re going to see a Sinema from Arizona, she’s a Democrat, but she’s kind of wavering a little bit. And I think you’re going to see Mark Kelly get a little crazy. Mark Kelly won his race was with barely 50 percent of the vote. And he was running against maybe the worst Senate candidate in American history.

Leahy: Martha McSally, a nice person, but a bad candidate.

McCabe: She’s so bad. I think she might be the only senator to lose two senate races in less than two years. (Leahy chuckles) She was appointed twice and lost twice, which is incredible in confidence.

Carmichael: Are there some good candidates in Arizona running for the opportunity to run against Mark Kelly in ’22?

McCabe: I haven’t seen anything really emerge yet. But I mean, that’s right for the picking, because this midterm the institutionalized cycle, is that this midterm is going to be bad for whoever the president’s party is. And so I think people are sort of licking their chops. I think Rick Scott as head of the National Senate Republican Committee was a very good choice. He’s a very, very solid guy.

He doesn’t get along with the DeSantis very well, but he raises money and he is tough. And people who thought that they could take him down in Florida learned very quickly in two tough governor races and a tough, tough Senate race. Rick Scott is tough. And he visited Trump and kissed the ring. And so I think that the Republicans are in good shape on the Senate side.

And as I said before, there are five of those Senate Democrats who won with less than 52 percent of the vote. I think that there’s a very good chance that Governor Chris Sununu the governor of New Hampshire, he runs. And that’s a pickup that nobody was really counting on. And again, the Senate Democrats are going to get a little squeamish. Remember that the Biden administration opted for what’s called in marketing a soft opening.

The grand opening of your administration is your first address to Congress. The guy never launched his first address to Congress. There’s a ton of cabinet positions whereas four years ago, Trump had problems getting people confirmed. He hasn’t even nominated a lot of people. We still don’t have branch secretaries. We still haven’t nominated one director. I said, like three weeks ago, the wheels were falling off.

Leahy: Neil McCabe, look into your Neil McCabe Crystal ball and tell us in the next 30 days, what is the likelihood the Senate, which is 50/50 right now with Kamala Harris, VP, the tiebreaker, what is the likelihood they jam through in some form this Corrupt Politicians Act that would codify the cheating that Democrats do and nationalize elections unconstitutionally?

McCabe: I think they chicken out. They’re going to be cowards, and they’re not going to do it.

Carmichael: Neil, and what about the infrastructure and the pro bill?

McCabe: Oh, that goes through. That goes through. And remember, everybody was looking at the filibuster. They don’t need the filibuster, because the Parliamentarian is going to give them they’re going to be able to do reconciliation forever instead of one budget bill a year that basically the Parliamentarian said they could do budget bills whenever they want. So the filibuster is no longer even an issue anymore for spending bill.

Leahy: On spending bills. Neil, That’s a very good point. I saw that decision by the Parliamentarian, and I said, uh oh, they’re going to jam all this stuff through using the reconciliation process, which is an obscure process in the United States Senate. Neil McCabe, thank you so much for joining us today, and you’ll come back next Wednesday with more.

McCabe: Be good guys. Take care.

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National Correspondent Neil McCabe Weighs in on the Mental State of the U.S. House and Senate in Washington

Washington Correspondent for Star News Network Neil W. McCabe Makes His Predictions on Senate Filibuster

 

Live from Music Row Wednesday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed Tennessee Star National Correspondent Neil W. McCabe to the newsmakers line to give his predictions on what will happen with the filibuster in the U.S. Senate and a red wave in 2022.

Leahy: We are joined now by our good friend, great colleague, the best Washington reporter in the country Neil McCabe, Washington Correspondent for the Star News Network. Good morning, Neil.

McCabe: Michael, quick question. Michael Patrick, Leahy, is that an ethnic name?

Leahy: (Laughs) Well, Neil McCabe, I will tell you, Michael Patrick Leahy, Neil McCabe, born of Irish, through and through on St. Patrick’s Day.

McCabe: One of the holiest days of the year Michael.

Leahy: There are, I think, a few pub crawls going on in Boston where you’re from, and New York City. And even here in Nashville. What about Washington, D.C.? Who is pub crawling? What are they doing up there with the crazy Democrats now trying to get rid of the filibuster?

McCabe: The pub scene isn’t what it used to be in Washington. But it is interesting about the filibuster because part of the deal that Mitch McConnell struck with Schumer was that they were going to protect the filibuster. And when they found out that Joe Manchin the senator from West Virginia was going to be a stick in the mud. Now all of a sudden they realized how important the filibuster is to stopping their agenda and they’re going to try it.

I mean, basically, what the Democrats have to do now is smash and grab because they’ve lost control of the calendar. We talked about it last week the fact that Biden hasn’t even scheduled a date for a State of the Union. And so there’s going to be no do sort of buy what they call skinny budget, where the incoming president gets a chance to make adjustments to the ongoing fiscal year. There’s no Biden agenda going in Magisterium if you will.

There’s talk about gun control. But there’s no real push on anything. The people expected him to make a big announcement or propose some legislation on immigration. But that’s all jammed up now. One of the problems, of course, is that you don’t have a confirmed director of the Office of Management and Budget, where everything that goes past all the regulations and laws and legislation proposed by the president passes through that office.

And so, Schumer and Nancy Pelosi the speaker, they realize, and if they’re going to get any of their priorities done they need to basically stop waiting for the president, they’ve got to get rid of the filibuster. And they just might do it. If Democrats are serious about taking control of this country they really have no choice. The question is, will Nancy go along with it?

And also look at Mark Kelly, who’s the Democratic senator from Arizona who’s up for work reelection because he was finishing the old term of McSally. (Inaudible talk) Mark Kelly is up in Arizona. And then you also have Rapahel Warnock in Georgia who is up. So these are two Democrat incumbents who are in conservative states that were stolen from the president in the 2020 presidential election because of all the bogus rules that they put in in the different states.

And, of course, the Democrats are well aware Mike that there is going to be a red wave in 2022. Not just structurally or institutionally, because the first midterm of a president’s term is always going to go against the president in the White House, but in particular, there’s going to be a fervor against the establishment.

And I fully expect President Donald Trump to be on the campaign trail, beating the drum, beating the pots and pans to drive up turnout. The Republicans are going to have a big year in 2022. And so the Democrats are looking over the horizon and things aren’t good. If they want to get anything done, you’re going to have to get rid of that filibuster. It’s just do they have the guts to pull it off?

Leahy: So my question for you, Neil McCabe, the Washington correspondent for the Star News Network, The Tennessee Star, and all our pantheon of six state-based conservative news sites.

McCabe: Constellation.

Leahy: Thank you! That’s right. It’s not a pantheon of news sites. It’s a constellation of Star News sites around the country. An ever-growing constellation by the way. You have a way with words Neil McCabe.

McCabe: (Inaudible talk)

Leahy: Will the Democrats, yes or no, attempt to get rid of the filibuster?

McCabe: No.

Leahy: No?

McCabe: They won’t have the guts.

Leahy: They won’t have the guts.

McCabe: (Inaudible talk)

Leahy: Ah, that is a very interesting prediction. Crom and I were talking a little bit about this. Crom, why don’t you tell Neil a little bit about this little quorum element here that Mitch McConnell threatened to exercise. Describe it to Neil and Neil I’d like to get your reaction to whether or not McConnell might do this.

Carmichael: Neil, what McConnell said on the Senate floor yesterday was that if the Democrats actually do go through with using the 50 plus one to break the filibuster then what he will do is he will use the quorum rule and no Senator will show up in the Senate Chamber. And they won’t have a quorum of 51.

And the vice president cannot count in terms of the quorum. So without 51 senators, the Senate can conduct no business at all, including apparently committee hearings. They can’t do anything. And so McConnell says, if you’re going to blow up the filibuster, we simply will not show up, and nothing will happen in the Senate. Nothing.

McCabe: First of all, the report to that was the same device that they can use to get rid of the filibuster Federal rules are supposed to be changed with the two-thirds. But what Harry Reid did when he first started getting rid of the filibuster, is he used the device at 50. With a simple majority, you can overrule the ruling of a chair. So you get the chair to rule something, and then you override them.

And then that becomes a new rule. And so that’s how he was able to hotwire the two-thirds requirement to change any Senate rules. And so, frankly, if McConnell wanted to do that Schumer could just as easily and get rid of the filibuster. (Inaudible talk)  The Senate has the right to change whatever its rules are. Whether it’s the Supreme Court, House, or President. Nobody can rechange how they run their chamber. However, no one is better at defense than Mitch McConnell.

I would never count on Mitch McConnell to advance the conservative agenda. And there’s no evidence he has done anything and his entire career in the Senate to advance the conservative agenda, right? We want to ban abortion. We want gun rights, right? We want to deregulate. None of that stuff is being advanced by McConnell. But nobody is better at defense. And we saw the way he handled Kavanaugh. And we’ve seen it with Merrick Garland.

Leahy: Merrick Garland the now attorney general of the United States.

McCabe: And Schumer is afraid of McConnell. That’s for sure.

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