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Former Acting Director of ICE Tom Homan Weighs in on the Facilitation of Cross Border Crime

Live from Music Row Tuesday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed author and former acting director of ICE Tom Homan to the newsmakers line to discuss the motives of the Biden administration’s lack of law enforcement at the southern border and pending lawsuits.

Leahy: We are joined on our newsmakers line by our good friend, former acting director of ICE under the Trump administration. And like me, a native of upstate New York. The man from Watertown, New York, Tom Homan.

Homan: Good morning sir.

Leahy: Well, Tom, I look at this disaster on the border over the past, what is it now? Almost going on six months. And my question to you is, is what Joe Biden doing, is what the Secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas is doing, violating the immigration laws of the United States, is that an impeachable offense in your mind?

Homan: I think it is. Their number one responsibility to protect this country and protect your sovereignty. And they have abdicated their responsibilities to secure our border.

They’re ignoring existing law. What they’re working really hard at, they’re making illegal immigration legal. They’ve already told ICE they can’t arrest anybody for just being in the country illegally.

They are releasing people at the border without any court date. And now they’re talking about and in the process of reinstating the CAM project, where people can apply for asylum in their home countries, and we will transport them at the taxpayers’ expense in the United States to reunite their families.

It’s at a point where I actually wait for they cannot believe where we’re at as a nation.

Leahy: Tom, what’s the solution to this problem?

Homan: You know, we can’t wait for 2022. I’m involved with several lawsuits. With the state of Texas, they’ve got five separate lawsuits filed against this administration. I’m a party to four of them.

I’ve written more affidavits, against the Biden administration than I’ve written in my entire career against criminals. (Inaudible talk) I’m a part of the Arizona lawsuit.

So I’ve been acting as an expert witness for a lot of the state attorneys general suing the Biden administration before and they’re doing exactly what you said they’re doing.

Not only are they ignoring the law, we believe they’re actually breaking laws. One of the lawsuits clearly says in the statute in Title Eight of the United States immigration law says that ICE shall detain those convicted of certain drug offenses, those who have final orders of removal from an immigration judge, and those who have committed crimes in perpetude.

It says I shall detain these people. They’re not detaining any of them. They’re releasing them. And I’m not blaming the ICE officers.

They’ve been put in a tough decision by this administration. They were given a memo basically saying that you can only use somebody in the United States for being here illegally if they have been convicted of a serious crime.

So for some, it’s almost like being in this country illegally isn’t illegal anymore? And they don’t think that serves as another enticement for cartels.

Look, we’ll get you to the border and we’ll get you in the country, you can even lose your case. And you win because no one’s looking to remove you.

This administration, I said many times, isn’t mismanagement. This is incompetence and by design. This is what the border looks like.

Leahy: I think you are right. I think it is by design. Let’s talk about this character, Alejandro Mayorkas. He seems to be perhaps one of the most practice liars I’ve ever seen.

In other words, he tries to set forward an explanation, couched in legal terms to explain why he’s violating the law. What’s your take on this guy?

Homan: I don’t recognize him anymore. When he was deputy secretary, I was third in command of ICE back in 2014, 2015.

We had a similar surge, not this big, but we had a surge. He knows what causes surges, and he knows how to stop them. I’ve had over 100 meetings with him.

Leahy: You’ve had over 100 meetings with Alejandro Mayorkas?

Homan: Yes. Back in ’14, ’15. And we stopped the surge. How did we do it? We built detention facilities with over 3,000 family beds. 3,000 beds.

We tell people long enough to see a judge. And when a judge order to remove which 90 percent would be able to removed, we removed them.

The numbers went down. He’s doing the complete opposite of what he knows works. They are not detaining them and they are working as quickly as they can to release them as fast as they can.

They’re being released without a court date. And we can’t remove them because ICE can’t remove someone for just being here illegally anymore.

He’s done the complete opposite of what we did in ’14, ’15 when he was a Deputy Secretary on how to stop this surge. That’s what I’m saying. This is by design. He knows how to stop this. He just won’t take the steps.

Leahy: Would you say Mayorkas is a highly intelligent man?

Homan: He was a US attorney. He’s an attorney by trade. He’s not a stupid man at all. What he’s doing with these open borders is he sold out to the progressive left, just like Joe Biden did.

And they’re running that an open borders agenda and he is facilitating it. Here’s a sad thing. I’m 59 years old. We have the first president in the history of my life and I’ve been in immigration law for 35 years, and the first Secretary ever that is actively facilitating illegals entering this country. Actively facilitating cross-border crime.

Leahy: Now, let me ask you about this. What’s the motive here? In your view? You react to what really is right. You probably don’t look at motive that much.

But I look at this and I say, okay, who’s behind this? Is this Biden’s desire? Is it Mayorkas’s desire? What are they trying to accomplish?

Homan: In my opinion, the open border advocates have control of the White House.

I know for a fact, a lady by the name of Esther Olavarria is working at the White House as a senior policy advisor who is an immigration activist out of Miami.

She and people like her have hijacked this administration. Like I said before, Biden sold himself out to win the progressive left. He knew it was important for him to get the votes from the progressives to become president.

So he sold out just to become president. And I think about this all the time. What could actually benefit? Here is who benefits. All these people come across the border, millions of them are going to sanctuary cities.

What happens then? Well, Biden also overturned the Trump census, which means then I’ll be counting the next census. But what’s that equal?

It equals more seats in the House for the Democrats which leads to the Electoral College. They’re offering amnesty to millions of people.

They think they’re future Democratic voters. This is about Democrats set the stage playing the long game for perpetual power.

And I’ve met with 20 Republican congressmen out in Texas about a month ago, and I told them, you guys need to pull your head out of your butt and pay attention to what’s going on.

Leahy: You didn’t say butt, I’m pretty sure I did.

Homan: No I didn’t. I said, maybe you don’t care, but you won’t win another election in 15 years if you don’t wake up. The Democrats are playing the long game and you’re ignoring it.

Leahy: Yeah, I think that’s it. Let me ask you this. Mayorkas. Now you’ve been in with him. He’s an interesting fellow to me. I think he’s very, very clever, but totally amoral in my view.

I’ve never met him. But you said you’ve been in hundreds of meetings with him. Is this like a one on one meeting you’ve been in? Or meetings with like 500 other people?

Homan: Mainly one on one meetings and many group meetings. And I would tell them how do we ran into this surge in ’14, ’15 and what we need to do to stop it.

And Jeh Johnson listened to us. And they did it. Listen, Jeh Johnson when he was Secretary and Mayorkas was deputy, we built with their approval 3,000 family beds.

You never see them do that today. And the so-called cages and what everybody is screaming about and said that Trump built, no, those were built when Alexander Mayorkas was Deputy Secretary.

That’s why I’m saying he’s doing the complete opposite of what he knows works. This isn’t an accident. He is not the same man he was back then.

He believed in border security. He let us do things to stop the surge. You can’t name one thing. You can’t name one single thing they have done to slow the flow or to add a consequence and returns.

They just keep making things easier. They stood out on the national stage a month ago saying, hey, look, there is no overcrowding border trouble cities.

We’re processing these quick kids quickly and getting them out. That’s a success. You may call it a success, but I call it a failure.

Because the quicker you release people and brag about it, the more they’re going to come because they know they won’t be detained.

Leahy: Yeah, that’s my sense. You were an acting director of ICE for a period of time. What’s morale in ICE like?

Homan: It’s never been this bad in the history of the agency. I mean, last month, you said the lowest number of arrests in the history of the agency.

At the same time, we have a record number of people coming to that border and entering illegally. The lowest number of arrests.

They’re not allowed to do their job. And I said before, and I mean, this is I can put in one sentence. An immigration agent or a law enforcement officer can no longer arrest somebody from being in the country illegally.

An illegal alien gang member can walk up to an ICE agent today and say, I’m here illegally. I was ordered to be removed by an immigration judge last year.

I didn’t go. What are you going to do about it? The answer is, they can’t do a thing about it. They can’t arrest them. This is where we’re at as a nation.

The men and women of Border Patrol and of ICE truly feel the President United States has abandoned them. They truly feel that they don’t support them. The Secretary or the President or the Vice President won’t even admit there’s a crisis on the border.

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Former Acting Director for ICE Tom Homan Weighs in on the Crisis at America’s Southern Border

Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – Leahy was joined on the line by author and former Acting Director of ICE Tom Homan who weighed in on the severity and legality of the actions being taken at America’s southern border immigration surge.

Leahy: Joined on our newsmaker line now, by fellow upstate New Yorker, Tom Homan, former acting director of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Tom, you were on FOX yesterday saying the border crisis is not incompetence. It’s by design from the Biden maladministration. Maladministration. My word, not yours. What do you say about that, Tom?

Homan: Well, I think it’s obvious. President Biden during the campaign made all these promises that he knew what cause a surge. that he was used vice President in 2014 and 2015 during the last surge, so he knows what causes the surge. I met the White House guys, and I met with the Deputy Secretary Mayorkas.

Leahy: You met with Mayorkas?

Homan: Numerous times.

Leahy: So so tell me this about Mayorkas. Mayorkas strikes me as a zealot who does not want to enforce our laws instead wants to manipulate them to open borders. That’s my take. Am I right or wrong or a little bit off?

Homan: During 14 and 15 We did enforce laws. We built thousands of detention facilities that would help them use remove up when they were all removed. But under this administration, now that he’s Secretary threw a complete opposite. they’re not detaining people. They try to release them as soon as possible. They’re not letting ICE remove anybody. So they’re doing the complete opposite of what they know works.

Leahy: Is this an impeachable offense on Marcus’s part because he’s not enforcing our laws properly? My view. Well, my view is because Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas is not enforcing our immigration laws intentionally. That it is an impeachable offense. That’s my view. What’s your take on that?

Homan: Well, absolutely. He’s not enforced in while he cut the head off ICE. And he opened the board to illegal immigration. I think he facilitated illegal legalization by what he’s doing.

Leahy: What can we do to stop this terrible derogation of duty by the Biden Maladministration and Secretary Mayorkas?

Homan: I think Congress is at. I think the American people need to call you Congressman Senator, and demand the enforce laws are the books.

Leahy: What can Congress do to Tom? Because it’s controlled 222 by 210 by Democrats? Are there any border state Democrats in the House of Representatives who could switch and Act in a way to require Mayorkas and Biden administration to enforce our immigration laws?

Homan: Very few. You got Henry Quail in Texas, I think is tired of the open borders policy. His communities are raised in House, so I don’t think there’s enough. I think we’re in trouble until the ’22 election. I think America got you the elections as consequences, and we’re in trouble right now for next.

Leahy: Well, I know we’re in trouble. And look, I’m just pushing for this. You would need probably six or 7 Democrats to flip choir as one. I think you’re right. Politically, I don’t think there are enough Democrats who have the courage to flip if Congress won’t do anything. What can be done to stop this disastrous surge over the next year?

Homan: Doing what we’re currently doing. Suing administration. I’m the expert witness on the Texas lawsuit. I filed an APA Dave with a Florida lawsuit. So we got counter Republican Texas Attorney General Susan. And so far, we’re doing really well. So we’ll take them to court the same way they took President Trump the court every two weeks.

Leahy: So the Texas attorney general is suing the Biden administration for this open border policy. Where does that court case stand? And what can we expect to happen from that?

Homan: Well, they just one part, the 100 day moratorium the judge says they can’t do that now. We just follow lawsuit saying we don’t like the Ice priorities. They are to go back to Ice arrest people who are in the country legally. Florida is doing the same thing. They’re suing on the policies of Bite administration that are resulting in open borders situation we’re currently in.

There are several other States I can’t speak about right now because it’s in the process. So I think you’re going to see four or 5 States joining together, and they’re all Southern border States to Sue the Bite administration to make them enforce the laws of Congress and acting and not letting them ignore them.

Leahy: What is this country going to look like in October of 2022?

Homan: I think our borders will remain open. I think I see hundreds of thousands of genes across that border that are not going to be held accountable, but also on the flip side, I think the American people will have enough. I think you will see the Republicans take back Congress. I think people are now beginning to see what a bad policy the Biden administration has because, on the Southern border and other things such as oil refineries, I think the American people will finally get to see what President Trump said was going to happen during the election.

Leahy: Will the country be able to recover from this debacle?

Homan: We are a strong country, but it’s going to take a while. You can say there’s going to be hundreds of thousands of people in a country like that won’t be removed. And we have got to hope and pray they don’t get the Amnesty bill passed because that’s going to give Amnesty to almost a million illegal aliens that cross more than the last three years. In the same way, families that were arrested, released, order removed, and never left. I really have other than the States suing the federal government, I don’t have a lot of hope all fixes in the next two years.

Leahy: Tom Homan, former Acting Director of ICE, you grew up in the Watertown, New York area just a few miles from the Canadian border. I saw a report that Secretary Mayorkas may be considering taking immigrants and crossing the Southern border, flying them up to the Northern border states, and processing them up in the Northern border crossing areas because they just don’t have the capacity down in the Southern border. Have you seen these reports? Do you give any credence to them?

Homan: Yes, it’s happened before. Where I’ve never seen time to Northern border, but I have seen them in ’14 and ’15. They formed other states to be processed because there the border is so overwhelmed. But on one hand, the Secretary of my orca says there’s not a crisis on a second again, people all over the country because they can’t handle the surge on the border. So I’ve seen it happen before. Not to the Northern border. But we’ve done it before. We moved around the middle of the U.S during ’14 to process. So it certainly makes sense to me. I have not verified it’s going to happen, but we did it back in ’15. I think you’re going to see happen again.

Leahy: Tom Homan, will you stick with us over the next couple of months and keep us updated on the progress of this litigation that you’re an expert witness on and let all of our listers know?. And, by the way, thanks for everything you’re doing from a media standpoint and on the ground.

Homan: I want to fight, and I’m going to fight for the right.

Leahy: Anybody from Watertown, New York iss a fighter that I know. Tom, thanks for joining us this morning.

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