Live from Music Row Friday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed Democrat Caller Carl to the newsmaker line to weigh in on Nancy Pelosi’s future as Speaker of the House, her recent comments to athletes regarding the Olympics and China, and elements of the NFL racial discrimination lawsuit.
Leahy: We welcome to our newsmaker line, our very good friend Carl, who’s been listening and a longtime caller. Welcome to The Tennessee Star Report. Thanks so much for calling in.
Carl: Listen, man, first of all, be careful driving home. Everybody else, be careful. Thank you for the invite.
Leahy: Hey, Carl, some of our listeners may not be familiar with the bet that you and I had. And you stomped me on the bet.
Carl: I did.
Leahy: And I paid it off, didn’t I? (Chuckles)
Carl: Yes, you did. And you were respectful of the time period in which I wanted to take care of it. And we did.
Leahy: The bet that we had when the new President was inaugurated on January 20, 2021, you bet five months before it that it would be Joe Biden and I bet it would be Donald Trump, and the loser would have to pay for a steak dinner at Rafferty’s. I lost and we had a great lunch, didn’t we?
Carl: Absolutely. What a great lunch.
Leahy: Crom Carmichael is here and wants to say hello.
Carmichael: Hey, Carl, how are you doing?
Carl: Good.
Carmichael: Carl, now my question is on behalf of Mike. He doesn’t know I’m doing this, but do you want to place a lunch bet on who will be the next Speaker of the House? Which party?
Carl: No, because I don’t know who will be the Speaker, but if it trends the way they’re supposed to be, the way it always has gone, it will go back to the party that’s out of power, out of the White House, but that’s yet to be seen.
Leahy: Carl, something about the program or something in the news prompted you to call because you’ve got something to say. What is it that prompted you to call in today and what is it you’d like to say?
Carl: I don’t disagree to be disagreeable. I do agree with your take on Nancy Pelosi. I believe that you have to be respectful of being a good guest. I was taught that. I’m pretty sure all parents taught the same thing.
Be a good guest. But still, in the spirit of the Olympics, especially with the precedent of the ’68 Olympics, protest your ass off.
Leahy: (Chuckles) So you disagree with Nancy Pelosi on that?
Carl: Yes, yes, yes. Protest your ass off. Now here’s the thing, though. When I found out the Miami coach was fired, that was shocking.
I was stunned because I thought that if the coaching staff, with the job they did here in Nashville, if he didn’t get the coach of the year, I thought it was going to go to the guy in Miami.
Leahy: I agree with you completely, Brian Flores. I was shocked that he was fired.
Carl: Fired. And then when I listened to the lawsuit, first of all, the lawsuit is long overdue. Very long overdue. That’s number one.
Number two, when I listen to the things that were in it, it’s believable because you don’t fire an up-and-coming young, hot, head coach that turned your team around two years in a row unless you’re pissed at him. And the owner was mad at him for not taking those games and getting a better draft pick a couple of years ago.
Leahy: I saw that in the complaint. And that is obviously inappropriate behavior. And if true, inappropriate. But here’s the big question just on the Miami incident for a moment.
If that’s true, if you tell your coach to tank the games, that’s kind of a violation of some NFL rules. But here’s my big question: how is that evidence of racism?
Carl: That’s just one part of the thing. That’s one part of the suit. Then the other part is the giant thing that’s the most damning – you have this man come in for an interview after you knew you hired someone else. That’s not cool at all.
Leahy: He sued three teams, right? Miami, Denver and Giants. I don’t see the claim of racism in Miami. But let’s go to New York now for a moment. So walk the audience through what you’ve read about that.
Carl: So what happened was his name is Brian. Another former coordinator. Bill Belichick’s named Brian as well. Bill Belichick texted him and thought he was talking to the other Brian and texted him and said, “Hey, congratulations on getting the Giants.”
And Brian was like, well, did you hear something? Because I don’t interview with them until Thursday, two days later. And he was like, oh, well, damn, I made a mistake. Brian then takes it back and says, “Are you talking about me or the other Brian coordinator in Buffalo?”
And then Bill Belichick said, “Man, I f’d up.” This is literally what he said, “I f’d up. My bad.” The lawsuit part of that is valid because he learned about it through Bill Belichick for congratulating the guy.
What is Bill Belichick doing knowing about what’s going on with the New York Giants and that hire in the first place? Number one. And number two, you don’t bring someone in as a token interview when you already hired someone else. At the very least, it’s not cool, right?
Leahy: Yes. I see the line of reasoning there.
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Live from Music Row Friday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed Dr. K. to discuss the elevation of the college athlete to professional and the changing dynamics surrounding it.
Leahy: Dr. K., you called it. After this name, image, and likeness policy was announced, now we have Nick Saban. This is a story at Fox Business, not sports. Fox Business.
Nick Saban says Alabama quarterback Bryce Young is already earning nearly $1 million in endorsement deals. Saban cautioned the new policy to pay college athletes could create unequal opportunities. What do you have to say about that, Dr. K?
Dr. K.: Well, I love Nick Saban. And, of course, Alabama’s program is clearly in as a focal point of what’s going on here. And when asked, he said, I don’t want to talk to anyone about it.
Well, that’s always interesting because that’s not going to happen. (Leahy chuckles) And he then went on to say that there was no precedent for it.
And then when they questioned him about Bryce Young, which you just alluded to, went on and said he is very concerned. And I’m quoting Nick Saban.
I’m very concerned about the disparity of compensation among teammates creating an uneven playing field. He went on to say that everything that we’ve done in college athletics in the past has always been equal. I don’t know where he got that.
Leahy: I’m not sure that’s exactly the case, but go ahead.
Dr.K.: He says, equal scholarship, an equal opportunity, now that’s probably not going to be the case forward. Some players will have more opportunities than others.
Saban also said that he believed that educating his players about the unequal marketing opportunities will lead to an opportunity for our team success that people are not looking over their shoulders at what somebody else is doing or isn’t doing.
It’s clearly documented that a good many Crimson Tide players have already signed endorsement deals. Bryce Young signed on with CAA, one of the more prominent agencies that represent NFL players.
He supposedly also has inked a deal with Cash App. He was a five-star player coming in. He’s projected to be the starting quarterback for Alabama.
And then Saban said, yeah, he’s drawn near to a million dollars and he hasn’t taken a snap in an SEC game. I think it’s the real deal.
And I think as we said last week, I think it’s going to be an absolute bombshell with all these kids. We could talk for hours about it. It’s exciting, but it is marketing.
Leahy: And I think also, these guys are going to come out at the age of 18, and they’re basically professional athletes, and they’re going to have to play at the college level and then to have to manage that.
I mean, they’re going to have people. They’re going to have agents and accountants. And that’s a lot for an 18-year-old kid to have to deal with.
Dr. K.: Everybody has entitlements, there’s little doubt. I think it changes the dynamics of college athletics tremendously. The day of the college athlete, good ones going to school for education could very well change dramatically.
If you’re being paid as a professional athlete, and then how long do you stay? It’s going to change the NFL. It’s a far-reaching decision, but it’s an entitlement.
We all have entitlement. You’re on the radio, you’re a big-name guy in the city, and you’re being paid handsomely for what you do and what you know.
And that’s your economic entitlement. And if an athlete is in the same capacity as an athlete, he has that same entitlement. So it’s just free economics. It’s a good thing to have?
Leahy: Let me put our two storylines together here, and kind of get your reaction to this. We have one storyline, Texas and Oklahoma are interested in joining the SEC. I think that’s going to happen. That’s my guess.
Dr. K.: I do too.
Leahy: All these things happened quickly these days, Dr. K., you know?
Dr. K.: I agree.
Leahy: The other storyline is name, image, and likeness. Eight freshmen in college can get in these big deals. Okay, so here’s what I think.
The superstar in waiting if all goes well, and things don’t happen along the way is the grandson of Archie Manning, the son of Cooper Manning, the nephew of Eli Manning, the nephew of Peyton Manning.
His name is Arch Manning. He’s 6’4. He’s like 208 pounds already. He’s a rising Jr. at Isidore Newman High School in New Orleans. He’s breaking all sorts of records.
It looks like he’s the real deal. As of today, he’s supposed to be the number one college quarterback coming out in the college of 2023. How much does he make?
And does it increase the chances that he’s going to Texas if they’re going to be in the SEC? We got 30 seconds on that big one, Dr. K.
Dr. K.: One, I think he will make a fortune. Just the name alone – being a Manning. Two, I’ll tell you, he’ll be a wealthy dude when he gets finished with his deal signing before he goes to college and where he goes, who knows.
I would imagine he would have stayed in the SEC. It’s going to be fun to watch. I promise you.
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Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael to the studio to weigh in on the mentality of woke white liberals, what Black American’s are really thinking, and fascist China.
Leahy: In studio, the original all-star panelist, Crom Carmichael. Crom, good morning.
Carmichael: Good morning, Michael.
Leahy: Did you have a good weekend?
Carmichael: I did. It was fairly uneventful, but we had a nice time. My whole family came over for Friday night, and we played a very interesting game.
Leahy: What is it?
Carmichael: You pick a category like, for example, vegetables. And then everybody writes down the name of a vegetable on a piece of paper. And then it gets all wadded up.
One of the people who is playing with the moderator, so they read each one of the names of the vegetables. So there were nine of us.
So eight people played. It might have been 10 of us. Nine played. But anyway, everybody wrote down theirs. And then the moderator reads out the name of the vegetables and then reads the names again in the same order.
And then nobody can ask, what were some of those vegetables? You can’t ever ask that again. And then you’re trying to guess. It could be anything.
It can be state capitols. It can be Presidents of the United States or world leaders. It can be anything you want it to be. But then you’re trying to guess. You’re trying to say so and so, you are a turnip.
Leahy: Okay, there you go.
Carmichael: And then if that person is a turnip, then they have to come over. And they’re now on your team. They’re now in your family. And at the end of the game, there’s only one family.
Leahy: That’s fun. It sounds like a lot of fun.
Carmichael: I messed up.
Leahy: Were you a turnip? (Chuckles)
Carmichael: Well, one of them was authors. So I decided I’d be funny. So I wrote down I-M-A. And then my last name was C-O-L-D.
Leahy: Ima Cold. (Chuckles)
Carmichael: Kathy was doing the reading, and I didn’t write the D very well. And so she thought it was a B. So it wrecked the whole joke. (Laughter)
Leahy: Crom, so here’s the thing. When it comes to stand-up comedy, I said, don’t quit your day job.
Carmichael: That’s right. Thank you.
Leahy: I had a great weekend. I went up right after the show on Friday I flew up to Madison, Wisconsin, and I have to tell you, it’s run by crazy lefties, the city itself.
Beautiful city. I don’t know if you’ve ever been there. The prettiest, state capital in the entire country.
Carmichael: Wow.
Leahy: And I stayed it right downtown and had dinner with great friends up there. Lots of Conservatives up there.
Carmichael: Oh yeah.
Leahy: And the city itself has got a couple of Lakes. Big beautiful lakes surround the city. It was gorgeous. And the lefties haven’t ruined Madison yet the way they’ve ruined Portland.
Carmichael: Wisconsin is not a liberal state. They vote left most of the time. But I think the Republicans not long ago had control of the governor’s office and both Houses of the legislature.
And Scott Walker used that time in office to change a lot of laws that have not been changed back. And I don’t know that the left has gotten control of both Houses.
Leahy: The Republicans control both Houses.
Carmichael: Okay.
Leahy: But you’re right. It’s a bifurcated state. The urban areas are left-wing lunatics, but the suburban areas and the rural areas are very conservative.
Carmichael: That may change. I watched Waters World over the weekend and there was one segment on there that I just thought was fascinating.
This reporter went out and was interviewing and asking questions of people on the young White liberals on college campuses and was asking them if voter ID laws are good.
And specifically, they asked about Black people and whether or not it harms Black people, and whether it suppresses the Black vote. Every single one of the White liberals’ interview, now I’m sure they interviewed others but they all said oh yes.
A lot of Black people don’t have identification. And they truly meant it. Then they interviewed Black people, and the person will say to a Black person, do you have a driver’s license?
And the Black person would say yes, why are you asking me that? Do you think most Black people have identification? Yes. Why are you asking me that?
Then one of the White people said that a lot of Black people don’t have access to technology. So then one of the Black people was asked, do Black people have access to technology?
And one guy said that’s a ridiculous question. Why do you ask me that And he said a lot of young White people don’t think that Black people have access to technology?
And he said what? It was stunning the difference in what young White liberals think, who probably watch CNN and MSNBC if they watch anything.
Leahy: So the theme of this pic of this report was young white liberals are stupid.
Carmichael: They are stupid, ignorant. They were given a nice brain by God.
Leahy: They don’t use it.
Carmichael: They don’t have the correct information in it. (Leahy laughs) And this gets to when you were interviewing Carol Swan about the NFL.
And by the way, this has been true for centuries. This has been true since before the Civil War. The Democrat Party has been the party of division.
It gets its power there. Now it’s the party of both division and government. Its constituency is government, and it wins power by division.
And so you had Jesse Jackson starting it in the 80s wanting Black people to be referred to as African-American. Meaning they weren’t American.
They were African-American. Well, now I think we’ve gotten finally past that. I always referred to Americans who are Black as Black, because I believe that Americans who are White should be referred to as White, not European-Americans.
I think America has a set of virtues and a set of ideas that are unique in the world, and I think they’re valuable to our country. We are the most multiracial country in the world and we have to have common values to have a functioning, successful society.
And I think this notion of the Black national anthem is once again, it’s like African-Americans that Black people don’t want to honor the American flag.
I wonder whether or not Black people who are in the service, whether or not they think the Black national anthem is their national anthem, or whether or not the national anthem that we’ve been singing for and playing before sporting events for a century, or whether or not that’s the national anthem.
Leahy: I think the latter.
Carmichael: I do too. I also think most Black Americans believe that the national anthem is important. And so the NFL’s doing is surprising to me.
And hopefully, the next Republican president will sign an executive order that forces the owners of the NFL and Roger Goodell to live in ways that are very uncomfortable for them.
Because that’s what they’re doing to the country. And they need to get a chance to walk their talk, as it were.
Leahy: And the disappointing thing about the NFL is you would think they might actually kind of be paying attention to what’s happening to their brand and they’re not. They’re going in exactly the opposite direction.
Carmichael: It may be that what they’re trying to do is get some big contracts in China. And I really mean that. I think that may be what they are doing.
Leahy: Crom, I think if you look at it sort of the NBA led the way with China contracts, but now they’re run by China.
Carmichael: Now the NBA is run by China.
Leahy: Totally run by China. And the NFL may be thinking the same.
Carmichael: They may be trying to do the same thing. And so they may think that if they do this, then there’s more money in it.
Leahy: They can put teams in China and we can just stop going to the games for the teams in America.
Carmichael: The thing that’s so disgusting about it, and that’s really the right word, and it’s also true with the NBA. Probably more so with the NBA is that the owners are putting the almighty dollar ahead of their own citizens and they will cow-tow to anything.
And I’ve decided I’m not quite sure that the Communist Chinese Party is the right way to describe them because they’re not pure Communists, but they are pure fascists.
You have to be connected to the government to be successful in China. If you’re not connected to the government, then you’re not going to be successful.
You have to have permission from the government of China to be successful. That’s more in the line of fascism because there are people who own their own businesses.
The means of production are not owned by the central government in China, but they are controlled by it.
Leahy: What’s emerging is almost like global fascist feudalism. That combo.
Carmichael: Yes. And the reason that China is successful is that they steal our intellectual property. If they weren’t allowed to steal and then exploit our intellectual property, they would not be an economically successful country.
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Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed all-star panelist, Dr. Carol Swain, to the newsmakers line to weigh in on the NFL’s decision to play the Black national anthem, her new book, Facebook and advice for Metro Nashville Public Schools.
Leahy: We welcome to our newsmaker Line all-star panelist for The Tennessee Star Report and the busiest conservative in America today, Dr. Carol Swain. Good morning, Carol.
Swain: Good morning, Michael. It’s great to be back.
Leahy: It’s great to be with you. Look, you are busy, busy, busy. And every time I turn around, I think you are almost single-handedly trying to keep FOX on a conservative track.
I see you all the time on Fox and Friends, and you do a great job. At the latest, you were on Friday. You’re trying to give the NFL a dose of common sense. Tell us what you talked about.
Swain: They asked me about the NFL’s decision to play the Black national anthem, as well as to embrace some of the social justice measures being pushed by the left.
And I pointed out that, you know, football is America’s pastime. and the people who watch sports, they do that for relaxation and enjoyment with their family.
They don’t want to be bombarded with a lot of political leftist ideals. And we have one America. We already have a National anthem.
And it doesn’t matter whether the lyrics of the Black national anthem, whether they’re positive or not. What matters is that this is the business and it will put people in awkward situations.
Are they supposed to stand for the Black national anthem? If they don’t stand, are they showing disrespect? Will the players continue to disrespect our flag and things that are patriotic?
All of these things keep coming up. They shouldn’t be. And so I did criticize the NFL officials for capitulating on this very important national issue.
Leahy: You said something that is just basic, common sense and then I see it reverberating around the news ecosystem. I said Dr. Ben Carson had the same argument.
I think you made it first. You’re making a lot of arguments first. How are people responding to your common sense conservatism?
Swain: Michael, I’ve always made arguments first. When I was in graduate school, one of my professors challenge another one, took them before the administrators for stealing my ideas.
So I’ve always been ahead of my time. I’m just pleased that God has given me this opportunity to speak about these national issues.
Leahy: On the NFL, I was kind of hoping that they would kind of get away from left-wing social justice political messaging because I like football.
I like watching football. It’s a fun sport. We have Dr. K. on here every Friday at 7:30 to talk about football. But I’m afraid, Carol, that it’s just too bothersome to deal with all the political correctness in the NFL.
And as a sports fan, I guess I’ll be watching more college football. What are your sports watching preferences these days?
Swain: Well, first of all, I called for a boycott. People do understand dollars. And when you look at the various sports fields as well as the U.S. military, these are the areas where Blacks have excelled.
We’ve had a meritocracy. And the very idea that all we hear about is racism, racism, racism everywhere, for people like me, we have been blessed by being in this country.
And I think that it’s falling on deaf ears because people are so tired of it. And I’m not just talking about White people. I’m saying everyone is tired of it.
We want to go about daily life without being bombarded by all of this leftist ideology. And it’s about taking down America. It’s not about improving our country.
It’s about dividing us as a nation and taking us down and making us weak before foreign enemies.
Leahy: Carol, our listeners are very interested in what you’re doing. Tell us what’s on your agenda of late because you’ve been very, very busy.
Every time I turn around, you’re on Fox and Friends or doing some national venue. What are your priorities now for the balance of this year?
Swain: You only catch me on Fox and Friends. I’m on Laura Ingram quite frequently. And I have two FOX shows I expect to be on today if not this week.
It’s my Fox and Friends. And I recorded three with Fox Nation. This week I’m headed to D.C. for some films on critical race theory. I’m going to be in a film.
I’m going to be interviewed for a podcast. And then later I’ll go to South Carolina for another filmmaker who is also challenging critical race theory.
And I have a new book coming out, Michael, on critical race theory. And it should be released in early August.
Leahy: What’s the name of the book? And who’s your publisher?
Swain: The name of the book is Black Eye for America: How Critical Race Theory is Burning Down the House. And the publisher is Be the People Books.
And it’s co-authored with a young man named Chris Shore, who is a graduate of Georgetown. And it is written for the public. It’s about 150 pages.
It’s something that people can get through and explains what critical race theory is, where it came from, why it is unamerican. It runs counter to our Constitution as well as civil rights laws. And it has two chapters on strategies of how to fight back against it.
Leahy: Now, where can people go to buy that book? Is there a particular website because we’ll link to it on The Tennessee Star. Where is the website for that book?
Swain: It’s going to be on Amazon and everywhere else. But it’s not going to be released and available purchase until around August one.
Leahy: Well, let’s see. We got about 13 days until August first. We will be featuring it at The Tennessee Star because we want people to see common sense from Carol Swain.
Swain: Well, thank you so much. Critical race theory is the civil rights issue of our day. And that is my message and we have to fight back against it, in the same way, we joined forces during the civil rights movement of the 1960s.
It’s a civil rights issue this time. White people are the victims. All of us need to come together in the same way we came together in the 1960s. It’s unacceptable. And we need to say that loud and clear.
Leahy: But, Carol, if you went to a Metro Nashville Public School meeting, as the Moms for Liberty Group did last week, they would probably argue that, well, White people can’t be the subject of that kind of discrimination by definition.
What would be your response to those woke folks at Metro Nashville Public Schools?
Swain: You know, I heard that back when I was in graduate school that only Whites could be racist because only White people have power. I thought it was ridiculous then, and even more so today.
And so White people are protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and its amendment as well as the equal protection clause of the Constitution.
And I think Metro Nashville is setting itself up for a lawsuit. So I would encourage the listeners out there if you’re on a job or you’re in an environment where they are discriminating against you and it’s hostile because of the color of your skin or because you are male in an environment where they’re doing critical feminist theory or critical queer theory and you’re being discriminated against because you’re heterosexual, collect information.
You have rights. File lawsuits. They understand lawsuits. Democrats love lawsuits.
Leahy: (Laughs) They sure do. Hey, the last question for you, Carol Swain. We had a story that Facebook is shadow banning your public page. Are they still shadow banning your public page?
Swain: No. In fact, things begin to change that very day that the article was published. I can easily access my supporters now because they have a platform where people can sign up to become a supporter and not just the friend.
They had that page so that I could not access or communicate with my supporters privately. And everything seems to be open and flooring right now. I think it’s because of the Trump lawsuit.
Leahy: The next time they shadowban you, let us know and we’ll do another story and magically it will disappear. Right?
Swain: Right.
Leahy: Carol Swain, thanks for joining us. Come back in studio sometime, please.
Swain: All right.
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