Mayoral Candidate Debbie Matthews Talks About Investments for Small Business Entrepreneurs

Mayoral Candidate Debbie Matthews Talks About Investments for Small Business Entrepreneurs

Live from Music Row, Thursday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed Columbia, Tennessee conservative mayoral candidate Debbie Matthews in-studio to discuss Independent incumbent Chaz Molder, how conservative policies work by keeping Columbia free from overwhelming small-business regulations.

Leahy: Debbie Matthews is with us this morning.

Matthews: This is sort of like my home, because my husband and I had our music business right up here on Music Row.

Leahy: So you’re familiar with Music Row?

Matthews: Yes, and it’s changed a lot, hasn’t it?

Leahy: It certainly has. And so you live in Columbia?

Matthews: I live in the historic downtown of Columbia. I own a historic home there.

Leahy: You are running for mayor. It’s purportedly not a partisan race, but it, in fact, is a partisan race.

Matthews: I think everybody in this country needs to be aware of what’s happening because where are our problems in this country? They’re in Democratic-run cities. How do Democrats keep getting elected?

And it’s because the municipalities do not have partisan races. Chicago does not. Memphis does not. Nashville does not. I was at WTN, our friends and competitors, and we were talking that Mayor Cooper was in there ahead of time when he was trying to run, and he said, I’m a conservative! I’m a conservative!

But you don’t find out till you get elected. But we have to change this. We have got to change to where it is a partisan race in all of our cities so people know.

Leahy: This particular race. You are running against the incumbent, who is, in essence, a progressive Democrat.

Matthews: Well, progressive socialist. Progressive Democrat. Yes. He’s young and it’s great, but hiding behind that Independent Party. I just want to be a mayor for everybody. It’s like, no, the first thing you did was raise our sales tax. That is not something for everyone.

Leahy: I didn’t know that. He raised your sales tax?

Matthews: There was a school we were trying to save, and he was like, if we raise our sales tax, we’ll be able to save McDowell School. Then we all said, okay, we love McDowell School. It’s a historic school.

It’s the oldest elementary school in town. Everybody was, let’s save it. Well, so tax raised. The city gave 50 percent of what they raised to the schools. It did not save McDowell. It was still torn down.

The other 50 percent of the sales tax revenue is now banked in the coffers of the city. And I’m like, that’s not good governance. That’s theft. You just stole money that you said was going somewhere else.

Leahy: So the guy’s name is Chaz Molder. Chaz. Chaz. Chaz.

Matthews: Comes from Charles Molder.

Leahy: Okay, so I’m already suspicious if your name is Chaz. Not Charles, not Chucky. (Chuckles)

Matthews: I know. And then there was a gay event that was put on by a private thing, and okay. The problem for me, though, was there was a drag show that afternoon.

Leahy: Was he all in favor of that?

Matthews: Well, he attended at least the Gay Pride portion of the morning.

Leahy: When was this?

Matthews: This was July 2021. And Columbia, Tennessee was a little shocked that there was a drag show in our arts district.

Leahy: Well, you know, there are groups that are just pushing, pushing, pushing drag shows, it’s an agenda.

Matthews: It’s an agenda.

Leahy: It’s all part of the plan to sexualize children.

Matthews: Exactly right. And so here you’re sitting here going, and I had someone from the community of the LBGTQ community call me. And I said, look, you know, I’m 57 years old.

When I grew up and lived in Nashville, these were sexualized events. They are still sexualized, and we can’t pretend that they’re not. And to mainstream them is, to me, child abuse.

Leahy: The incumbent Chaz Molder is an attorney. He’s a UT grad, graduate from the University of Memphis, and he serves as mayor.

Now describe the city governance there. I know in the county of Maury County, about 100,000 plus people growing. They have the new mayor, Sheila Butt, former state rep.

Matthews: Yes. A good Republican.

Leahy: And she’s been serving since September 1. So there’s a county commission and a mayor and they run the governance of Maury County. But within that, you have 40,000 people in the city of Columbia. In the county seat.

Describe the governance of the city, the mayor, the city council, and the city manager. How does that all work?

Matthews: The City of Columbia has a city manager-type system, so the city manager is paid to run the city. The city council consists of seven council members, five of which are ward city councilman.

Then you have a vice mayor and a mayor, and they’re the board of directors of the city of Columbia. And basically, we had a debate with Chaz Tuesday. He was like, oh, I’m just a good-feeling guy. And it’s like, no, the mayor sets the tone.

Leahy: So the mayor sets the tone for, in essence, the board of directors. Is it a paid position?

Matthews: It makes $750 a month.

Leahy: Well, $750 a month.

Matthews: But the most important thing is the mayor decides. I say they’re the neck that turns the city manager’s head on what we want to look like, you know?

And what’s unfortunate is during this time when I was on the city council, I started in 2008, we had the greatest recession since the Great Depression. The downtown was dead. There was nothing going on.

Leahy: I recall that time.

Matthews: Dead.

Leahy: Because I live just north of the Williamson County-Maury County line.

Matthews: So when I took my office here, unemployment hit, GM shuttered because Obama and Corker got into it. Downtown was completely dead. And we didn’t have a building permit pulled for like two and a half years. It was dire. But we were a conservative city council.

And we looked at each other and said, okay, we’re gonna batten down the hatches. We’re not going to raise taxes. And we didn’t. We’re not going to lay off an employee in this economy. And we didn’t.

And then we said, we’ve got to still grow and make some long-term strategic decisions. So we did a strategic growth plan. We did subdivision regulations.

We invested in Ridley Riverfront Park, our arts district, and we made the historic downtown an economic engine. If you come here today, Columbia is flourishing, and it has been.

Leahy: And that downtown district has become very popular. And it’s a very nice part of town.

Matthews: It is. But that was from us setting and making smart, conservative decisions that were for investment. Maury County is the best place to be an entrepreneur and a small business owner, especially in the downtown district.

Leahy: I don’t disagree with you on that. But tell me why, if you’re an entrepreneur of all the places in the state – and I know several folks who have actually moved their businesses to Maury County – but tell me why that’s the case. Why is Maury County the place to start a business?

Matthews: It’s a conservative community that doesn’t want regulations, and we’re having trouble with that, which we’ve got to straighten out, which is one reason I want to run for mayor.

Leahy: Is there a movement under the current mayor, Chaz Molder, to do more in the way of regulating businesses in the city of Columbia?

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Columbia Mayoral Candidate Debbie Matthews: ‘People in Columbia and Maury County Are Worth Fighting For’

Columbia Mayoral Candidate Debbie Matthews: ‘People in Columbia and Maury County Are Worth Fighting For’

Live from Music Row, Thursday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed Columbia, Tennessee conservative mayoral candidate Debbie Matthews in-studio to describe the process of door-knocking in her campaign and how the people in her city and county are worth fighting for.

Leahy: It is always a delight to have the high-energy of Debbie Matthews in-studio with us here.

Matthews: I can’t even sleep when I have to come in.

Leahy: You like radio, don’t you?

Matthews: I love radio.

Leahy: It’s a lot of fun.

Matthews: Well, it’s the best form of communication.

Leahy: Yeah, it is. I’m a little biased, but I agree. You’re running for mayor of the city of Columbia, in Maury County, which has a population of 40,000. What do you do to run for mayor of Columbia?

Matthews: First of all, you throw your hat in, and then you talk to absolutely everybody. To me, there’s no other way to campaign other than going door to door.

Leahy: When you say that, do you go knock on doors yourself?

Matthews: Me and a team of people. So yesterday there were six of us, and we hit neighborhoods and we go door to door.

Leahy: So how many voters will have had a knock on the door from you or your team by election day?

Matthews: We hit about 200 houses a day.

Leahy: What time do you start?

Matthews: Depends on what teams are able to go out. But we’ll do like, a 10:00 to 1:00 and then a 2:00 to 5:00.

Leahy: On a weekday or a weekend?

Matthews: Every day except Sundays.

Leahy: Let’s describe this. When you go in, how do you do that? Give me an example of perhaps some of your most memorable doorknocks. (Laughs) 

Matthews: Yesterday we knocked on a door, and the man came. I don’t think he had a shirt on, and he looked like he was going to kill us.

Leahy: He was happy to see you.

Matthews: Oh, no. No, no, no. He wasn’t.

Leahy: Did you take your leave from that?

Matthews: No, Sandy Henson was at the door, and Sandy is the most terrific human being ever. And she said, I’m really sorry to bother you, but it’s important.

We’re out here just asking for votes for the city mayor’s position, and all of a sudden, he just melted into this wonderful, fantastic human being.

Leahy: He was happy to see you. What did he say?

Matthews: He said, I’ve got a conflict. And we said, well, lots of people have conflicts. What’s your conflict? And he said, Chaz Molder is a friend of my wife’s. He said, but you’ve got my vote.

Leahy: Well, there you go.

Matthews: I know.

Leahy: Do you believe, when you go talk to somebody at the doorstep – first, how many people know that there is an election for mayor of Columbia, Tennessee out of the 200 people you knock on their doors a day?

Matthews: I think most people know because we’re visiting doors of registered voters who have voted.

Leahy: So, you’ve got the data and you know they are likely voters.

Matthews: They are likely voters. And, you know, someone told me years ago, don’t go pull everybody on the registry, because those aren’t the people that vote. Pull the people that have actually voted in this race at this time.

Leahy: That makes a lot of sense.

Matthews: And it makes a whole lot of difference. There were 60,000 registered voters in Maury County, and during the August 8th primary, and also which was a general election for the county mayor’s seat and the commission, only 17,000 of the 60,000 voted. So about 20 percent.

So the numbers for conservatives were like 13,900 to 3,600 Democrats. So we know if Republicans show up to vote, we’ll be okay.

Then we look at what Republican voters voted in the city for at this time, and how many Republicans and Democrats do we have? And we focus on getting those Republicans to the polls.

Leahy: When you talk to somebody, have they made up their mind? Are they persuadable or are they unpersuadable?

Matthews: Well, you ask them, how are things? You find out a lot of stuff and it’s the same sort of reasons that you got into the race. You’re seeing uncontrolled growth or you’re seeing some social issues or you’re seeing Woke policies regarding hiring or all of these things. And it’s the same mantra. Different people have different things.

Leahy: In your door-knocking yesterday, when you ask that question, what’s the number one thing that people have told you?

Matthews: They’re concerned about the growth.

Leahy: Uncontrolled growth. The question you ask is what’s on your mind or what do you say?

Matthews: How are things?

Leahy: You say, how are things?

Matthews: How are things with you in the city?

Leahy: You say, how are things with you in the city? So you make it specific to the city.

Matthews: I’m running for the city mayor’s position.

Leahy: But they don’t know.

Matthews: I’ve got a big button on. But you have to remember, I served nine years as the city official and city council person.

Leahy: So a lot of people kind of recognize you?

Matthews: They know me. And I have big billboards, especially because I’m a realtor and my family’s been there forever.

Leahy: For a long time.

Matthews: And I’ve been active in everything. People trust me. They always have trusted me. But if I come and say, what’s on your mind? How’s this water issue? Has it been resolved?

Because there’s a big water problem in Sunnyside that people have been calling the mayor about. We need this fixed and nothing has happened.

Leahy: It hasn’t been fixed yet.

Matthews: Has not been fixed.

Leahy: Remember back in the ’50s and ’60s, Richard Daley was the mayor of Chicago. And he was a tough guy. He was sort of a war boss-type guy. But you know, when it snowed, he got the streets plowed.

Matthews: That’s right.

Leahy: When the trash needed to be picked up, it got picked up. And these are the basic things that the mayor of a city needs to make sure happen.

Matthews: Exactly. And right now, I always say that our current mayor, who I’ve known for a long time, I call him Prince Chaz.

Leahy: Chaz. C-H-A-Z. (Chuckles) 

Matthews: He now has just bought a $1.2 million house. That’s public record. He’s moved off to the rich side of town.

And so in his trek into town, he’s on the newly paved streets with the new historic lighting and all of that stuff. And life is picnics and noodle salad for him. But you get a couple of blocks off the square and things haven’t changed.

Leahy: So by the way, Chaz-with-a-Z Molder. You’re welcome to come in-studio and talk with us about the mayoral re-election.

Matthews: He should. He made a comment at the debate. He was like, I just don’t think it’s appropriate for the chair of the Republican Party to be at the state legislature trying to get an impact fee for the constituents. You don’t have constituents.

And I’m like, going, well, I have about 70 percent of the county. That’s the county chair that I represent. So, yes, I have more than you have in the city.

Leahy: Debbie, you know, I’m getting the sense that you’re kind of feisty.

Matthews: I am. People in Columbia and Maury County are worth fighting for.

Leahy: Now, that is a good line.

Listen to today’s show highlights, including this interview:

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Photo “Columbia, Tennessee” by Matt Locke. CC BY-SA 4.0.