Professor and Author Jeffrey Bilbro Talks About His New Book Reading the Times and the Media’s Trust Factor

Professor and Author Jeffrey Bilbro Talks About His New Book Reading the Times and the Media’s Trust Factor


Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed Professor Jeffrey Bilbro and author of the new book Reading the Times to talk about his theological perspective on media, how news has changed, fact-checking, and left-wing media.

Leahy: We welcome to our newsmaker line, Professor Jeffrey Bilbro. He’s a professor at Grove City College, A great college in Pennsylvania about an hour from Pittsburgh. He’s the author of a new book, A Literary and Theological Inquiry into the News. Welcome, Professor Bilbro.

Bilbro: Well, thank you for having me on this morning.

Leahy: So you have a Ph.D. from Baylor. Did you take any courses there from Rodney Stark?

Bilbro: I did not, but I do know him and his work. He’s a great guy.

Leahy: He’s a great guy. Written a lot about the origins of Christianity. But your book now, it’s so interesting that you talk about this from a theological and literary perspective. Tell us about Reading the Times and what it means and what it used to mean, and what it means today.

Bilbro: There’s obviously a lot of changes in the news media in the last couple of decades, especially with the rise of social media and the Internet. But I wanted to kind of take a step back and think about the longer-term trends and shifts in the news over the last decades and centuries.

And one of the things I focus on is shifts in the 19th century with the rise of the steam-powered printing press, the telegraph, and some of these earlier technologies, and then try to use people who responded to those shifts.

And you thought about the news from a theological perspective to try to get some wisdom on how we might engage news wisely in our current situation.

Leahy: What did you learn from that?

Bilbro: A lot of it is the temptations we have today about clickbait or just getting outraged about the latest ephemeral crazy thing that somebody said on the other side. A lot of these problems in which the news can become just a set of distractions rather than a way for us to get wisdom and insight into what’s happening and how we should respond.

These are old problems. Humans are prone to distraction and are prone to getting their priorities out of whack. The solutions themselves might not be necessarily new or technological, but the kinds of virtues that the Church fathers and others have talked about for centuries.

Leahy: It sounds like you’re putting the onus on the reporters of news to report news that is significant to the lives of everybody, but not necessarily the outrage of the day. Did Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez say something stupid again? Yes. (Bilbro laughs) Yes. What was it? Right?

Bilbro: That’s right. Because we don’t need to just have our convictions reaffirmed every day by how terrible people disagree with us. But there are ways that journalists can host a thoughtful, informed conversation about events today and help us discern what’s really going on, and help us sort through what responsibility we might have in these particular circumstances.

Those are important things. So as consumers, I think we can seek out and listen to those places that give us wisdom and insight and not just continually rile us up.

Leahy: So, back to our Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez example. It’s actually not news if Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says something stupid, because pretty much every day she says many things that are stupid. So that’s not any news. It’s sort of like dog bites man is not news. Man bites dog is news, right?

Bilbro: Yes. I think that’s right. And we need to be cognizant of what’s worth attending to. What’s actually going to help us love our neighbors and be good citizens and thoughtful members of our communities and attend to the stories that might help us do that.

Leahy: We own and operate eight state-based news sites. And one is The Tennessee Star right here in Tennessee. But also The Georgia Star News, The Michigan Star. We’re opening up The Pennsylvania Daily Star, by the way, in September.

Bilbro: Oh really?

Leahy: What advice do you have for me?

Bilbro: Oh, man. (Chuckles) You know more about this than I do. I intentionally wrote this book to news consumers because I think the people in the business, it’s tough. You have a lot of financial restrictions and pressures.

You’ve got to make money and find a way to keep people engaged. I think there’s a lot of news institutions that do a good job of fostering community amongst their listeners or readers.

Leahy: Now you have my attention because you said there are a lot. Help me out here. Give me your top two or three examples.

Bilbro: I’m being optimistic. I like World Magazine.

Leahy: Oh yes! World Magazine is fantastic. Marvin Olasky runs that. Or he did.

Bilbro: Yes. He’s near the end of his career. I think he’s done a great job.

Leahy: Does anybody actually read World Magazine, though?

Bilbro: Well, that’s a good question. I think they’re doing okay. But I don’t know. I think finding that balance between getting readers or listeners, but also giving them stuff that will edify and encourage and challenge them.

It’s hard because people – we want to hear what pleases us rather than always what we need to hear.

Leahy: Back in the land of giving advice. National Public Radio lies about our reporting all the time. And they did that just recently, where they made some statements about election reporting that we’ve done that was absolutely, totally false. What advice would you have for me dealing with lies from National Public Radio about our reporting?

Bilbro: Yes. That’s frustrating. And that’s part of why there’s a lot of news organizations like The Washington Post and others right now who are touting fact-checking. And if we just get all the right fact-checking …

Leahy: The Washington Post, owned by the left-wing autocratic billionaire Jeff Bezos. That Washington Post.

Bilbro: Yes. Exactly. And that’s why I’m skeptical that fact-checking is a real solution because it all depends on who’s checking the facts.

Leahy: It’s fact spinning when it comes from The Washington Post and The New York Times.

Bilbro: Yes. And whoever is doing the checking. And so I think this kind of deceit and fact-checking isn’t really honest. That’s an endemic problem. It’s not really honest.

Leahy: But in our case, our listeners think the establishment media is utterly dishonest, and polling shows that they’re the only institution with a lower reputation than the media. I think it’s like 17 percent approval is Congress, which is like 12 percent approval.

Bilbro: (Chuckles) And that’s a problem. It’s hard to have a thoughtful conversation when nobody can be trusted and you don’t know who to trust. Whether you’re getting the full story and usually regardless, I suppose we’re not getting the full story, we are just getting part of the story.

So it can be really hard for news consumers to know where to trust. And I think we don’t want to reject, I don’t know. It’s hard to just want to just discount all of the mainstream media, because I think some people – some individuals out there – are doing good work, too.

Leahy: Okay. And then now, by the way, that’s a statement made, and I’m not going to press you on this. I would be hard-pressed to come up with the list of those individuals in the establishment media, but kind of continue.

Bilbro: (Chuckles) I could name a few individuals at The Atlantic, say or something like that. But I agree that in general, I turn on NPR, and there are some good stories, but there’s a lot of stories I think aren’t getting the full scoop. And so it’s hard to know.

Leahy: I mean, The Atlantic is propped up by the left-wing billionaire Laurene Powell Jobs.

Bilbro: The money is a real problem, I think. And you see, a lot of these organizations are funded by various billionaire philanthropists because they’re not making money otherwise.

Leahy: Yeah, exactly. Hey, Jeff Bilbro, will you come back? And we wish you the best of luck with your book, Reading the News: A Literary and Theological Inquiry into the News. Thanks for joining us today.

Bilbro: Thanks very much.

Leahy: That’s Jeffrey Bilbro, a Professor at Grove City College in Pennsylvania. I strongly recommend it if you have kids looking for college. Take a look at Grove City, along with a few other colleges.

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All Star Panelist Roger Simon Talks Knowing Tucker Carlson and Who’s Who in Mainstream News Media

All Star Panelist Roger Simon Talks Knowing Tucker Carlson and Who’s Who in Mainstream News Media


Live from Music Row Thursday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed senior editor-at-large at The Epoch Times, Roger Simon, in studio to talk about his friendliness with Tucker Carlson.

Leahy: Roger Simon, all-star panelist. We were talking during the break and that right now, the most important, the most significant conservative media personality is Tucker Carlson.

Simon: Without a doubt. In fact, there’s nobody close except for you, Michael. (Laughter)

Leahy: Well, thank you, Roger.

Simon: No. I mean, there is nobody close, and he’s done a remarkable job. He is the most-watched, most interesting guy on TV.

Leahy: He’s a fact-based guy, and he reports facts, which makes him all the more powerful. You’ve known Tucker for some time. Tell us about how you first met Tucker.

Simon: I’ll tell you how I first met him and then I’ll tell you how he’s gotten me into trouble. (Laughter) I actually don’t remember the first time we met, but when The Daily Caller was being started by Tucker.

Leahy: 2009 or 2010?

Simon: This was earlier, I think, particularly with PJ Media. We were earlier than that.

Leahy: PJ Media was much like 2000.

Simon: No, it was for 2004. All of us sort of knew each other. I knew Breitbart.

Leahy: You knew Andrew.

Simon: And Tucker. Glenn Reynolds, the Instapundit over here at Knoxville.

Leahy: Glenn, of course, was a key part of PJ Media.

Simon: Oh, he still is.

Leahy: With Instapundit. Great guy.

Simon: Oh, he’s a fantastic person.

Leahy: Lives in Knoxville.

Simon: So we all kind of knew each other. So that’s how it happened, really. And then we keep bumping into each other at event after event.

So I don’t know Tucker that well, but I know him pretty well. We text back and forth.

Leahy: You text him.

Simon: That’s how he gets me in trouble. As many listeners know, the NSA apparently has been looking in on Tucker’s text. So, therefore, the NSA is listening in on my texts.

Leahy: Uh oh.

Simon: And I wrote a little bit about this at The Epoch Times, and I sent this over to Tucker. He really got a chuckle out of it. I said you are outing me at the NSA.

Leahy: As a conservative!

Simon: I think they already knew. The problem with the whole NSA thing is that there’s a book called The Puzzle Palace, written in 1988 about the NSA. It tells you that in 1988 they were able to access virtually all our communication.

Leahy: Way back in ’88. And it’s gotten much worse ever since, hasn’t it?

Simon: Yes.

Leahy: So you had lunch with Tucker recently?

Simon: But I can’t talk about that too much because Tucker has security issues, as people know because Antifa types were at his house.

Leahy: Bad guys. They threatened his family and his poor wife was there. They were knocking on the door and she didn’t know what to do. That’s awful.

Simon: So he has to live a life a little bit under the radar, and I don’t blame him.

Leahy: Let me tell you something about Tucker Carlson. I’ve met him just once, but I’ve had a few communications with him. Not a lot. He’s a very nice guy.

Simon: He is a terrific person.

Leahy: I met him back in 2012 when I was doing the book tour for Covenant of Liberty: The Ideological Origins of the Tea Party Movement and I was on Fox News coming on Fox and Friends and did the whole tour.

I was actually on Morning Joe with Joe Scarborough. I got to tell you about that here in a second. But I was on Lou Dobbs’ show, and he was on the panels.

Lou came off and chatted with me briefly. Very nice. He’s much taller than you would think. He’s about 6’1. He’s not super tall.

Leahy: He’s taller than me.

Simon: Well, everybody’s taller than we are. (Laughter) It’s the sad truth.

Leahy: So if you want to hear my Morning Joe story?

Simon: Yeah, I do. One of the least likable people.

Leahy: No, there’s somebody even less likable than him. You know who it is?

Simon: His wife.

Leahy: Yes. Mika! So I’m going to go into name-dropping city here. Name dropping alert.

Simon: Okay.

Leahy: I had a friend who was never a professor of mine at Harvard, but was a Ph.D. student there. He was a Ph.D. student of American History. His name was Alan Brinkley, the son of the great David Brinkley.

Alan is a very nice guy. He was a biographer of Franklin Roosevelt. Now he’s kind of a liberal. But a very nice guy. And so back then, I was a liberal.

We used to have these when you go to college and when you know everything. When you go to college, you’re also an Ivy Leaguer. Don’t tell anybody.

The expanses of New Hampshire at Dartmouth. You’d have lunch, and then you’d just sit around and just talk for hours about how much …

Simon: How much you know.

Leahy: Look at how much I know. Anyways, but this was fun. And so I got to know him. He would come and we’d chat. Very nice guy. Alan Brinkley.

So then fast forward – I don’t know – 35 years. He wrote a kind of nasty critique of the Tea Party movement. And as you know, I was involved in the launching of that movement.

I took exception to it. And I wrote him and I laid out all of his errors. And he responded. He was kind. And he said, well, okay, I get your point.

And we started talking about that. It turns out he was pals with – of course, because of his dad – Tom Brokaw. And so I got a call before the 2010 elections from Tom Brokaw to interview me about what the Tea Party was.

And, of course, this was before all the big Republican victories. Say what you will about Tom’s ideology, but he’s really probably one of the best interviewers that I’ve ever met.

He was very good. So he interviewed me. Tom got me on Morning Joe. I had a 12-minute segment there and Mika was there.

Joe was very nice to me by the way, back in 2012. Mika, let me just say if looks could kill, (Laughs) I would not be here today.

Because we got the Brokaw introduction she didn’t have permission to kind of go after me, but she wanted to. She really wanted to. I could tell her she just totally hated my guts.

Simon: Speaking of my life as a hypocrite, that duo is right up there. Joe and Mika, they’re right up there because they were all over Trump and then all of a sudden, Trump is Satan.

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Crom Carmichael Defines White Supremacy and Its Convenient Relationship with Today’s Media

Crom Carmichael Defines White Supremacy and Its Convenient Relationship with Today’s Media


Live from Music Row Wednesday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael to the studio who analyzed White supremacy in relation to the current media narratives and federal officials wielding of power.

Leahy: We are joined in studio by the original All-Star panelist, Crom Carmichael. And as you know, it’s Wednesday. So, of course, it’s time for Crom to be in studio. Good morning, Crom.

Carmichael: Morning, Michael.

Leahy: Well, so much to talk about. So little time.

Carmichael: Yes.

Leahy: We’re talking a little bit about journalism in America. Where does it stand?

Carmichael: Well, I want to connect two dots. One is journalism in America. We talked about it Monday. And then on Monday, when I got home, I was reading The Wall Street Journal.

And there’s an article by Gerard Baker, and he essentially said exactly the same thing we were saying. And I’m going to quote a couple of things from the article. It says these days, proliferating lapses and journalism judgment and standards are not simply forgiven by the editorial establishment.

They are rewarded as long as they are the right kind of error by the right kind of person. He says even Jeffrey Toobin is in fact, the indispensable legal mind CNN evidently believes he is, his reinstatement last week must surely fill some of his colleagues with misgivings. I don’t believe that a single person at CNN has any misgivings about Jeffrey Toobin coming back.

Leahy: Because he’s in the club that’s vastly overpaid.

Carmichael: He’s in the club and they don’t care.

Leahy: As long as they have they get paid and they get their agenda out.

Carmichael: They have a narrative.  And I would imagine that there are other people at CNN who are equally as disgusting as Jeffrey Toobin. But then it says, but his restoration to a more salubrious on camera roll is a helpful reminder of the rules that now govern the news.

The medium is no longer the message. The new reality is that the mission is the message. As long as your work furthers the mission, no failure in behavior, no error in reporting or editing, no corruption of the truth or evidence will go unrewarded.

All data and facts, all judgment about stories and people who produce them are subordinate to the mission. Now, I want to take all of this and tie it into this new thing of White supremacy. What is White supremacy?

How would one define White supremacy? Is it White people, primarily males, who are trying to use the government to have control over other people, especially minorities? Would that be the definition of White supremacy?

Leahy: Crom, yeah, it would seem to me that would be a good definition of White supremacy.

Carmichael: Then Merrick Garland and Joe Biden are right up there. (Leahy chuckles)  They are right up there.

Leahy: I could see that one coming a mile away.

Carmichael: Oh, my gosh. I don’t know if you’ve seen what Merrick Garland is now trying to do in Arizona. You have an investigation in Arizona by officials in Arizona. Legal officials.

Leahy: Authorized by a state judge.

Carmichael: Yes. And Merrick Garland is trying to say that what they are doing is wrong. Now, let me say this. That’s a White supremacist if I’ve ever heard one. Because here’s another thing.

This shows you why Mitch McConnell and the Republicans were so wise and not even holding hearings for this political hack. He apparently was a circuit court judge. The Washington circuit.

He should understand the Constitution. He should know that states have the authority over elections, not the federal government. He should know that. But he doesn’t, apparently, or even worse, he knows it and is ignoring it.

Leahy: Let me just step back for listeners just to remind them when Crom was talking about Mitch McConnell refusing to hold hearings for him, it wasn’t a hearing for his confirmation as attorney general. He was nominated for the Supreme Court after the death of Anton Scalia.

Carmichael: Yes. Thank you for that. We are talking now two years ago.

Leahy: 2016. And rightfully, Mitch McConnell, the Republican majority leader, had told President Obama it’s an election year. You nominate somebody, we’re not going to hold hearings.

Carmichael: Right. And that’s exactly what Joe Biden had publicly announced in 1992. And that was even when a sitting President was running for reelection. In the case of 2016, you didn’t have a sitting President running for re-election.

But I really want to dig into this question of what is a White supremacist. Might a White supremacist be the head of the FBI who inserts, as we learned from Tucker Carlson last night.

Over a dozen FBI operatives into the organizations that were coming to Washington to listen to Donald Trump talk about the elections and whether or not there was cheating in the elections.

And now we’ve learned that the FBI from Tucker Carlson that the FBI, some of these people who insert themselves actually agitate and actually come up with ideas of insurrection, encouraged the insurrection and participated in it.

Leahy: There’s a word legal word for that. I think it’s called entrapment.

Carmichael: Yeah, I think so. I think so. And so now you have people who are sitting in jail in solitary confinement in Washington, D.C. who won’t be tried and whose lawyers are not being given access to the evidence.

Now, think about this for a second. Is Christopher Wray White? Yes. Is he trying to use the power of government to crush other people, some of whom are minorities, some of whom are women? One of the Capitol Hill agents shot and murdered.

Leahy: Murdered Ashli Babbitt.

Carmichael: Who was unarmed. A 14-year veteran and we can’t even find out who that person is. That person is not even going to be tried. Apparently, there was not even a Grand jury.

Leahy: How does that happen?

Carmichael: It when you have White supremacists who have power. And that’s what we’re looking at here. Whether or not they’ll be able to use that power to leverage taking over the government, I think, is in great question because I don’t think they can.

But I think they were trying to. We have Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema to thank. I think there are other Democrats in the Senate, but they wouldn’t stand up. Those two did. They stood up and said, enough, we’re not going to do away with the filibuster.

We’re not going to do away with our Democratic system. We’re not going to do away with our Constitution. And so because of that, Biden’s whole agenda has stalled. I don’t watch CNN.

And so I wonder whether or not they applauded Joe Biden for being able to walk up and down the steps of Air Force One without falling. Because for CNN, that’s about all he has to do to have a successful trip abroad.

Leahy: There’s something I wanted to point out first about the Australian media. The Australian media has observed the fawning of the American establishment media over Joe Biden in these G7 meetings in Europe. And they are just utterly disgusted by it. They’ve reported on that.

Carmichael: Yeah. You’ve heard the old baseball story about Shoeless Joe. I’m going to say, Clueless Joe. That’s a new name for me. I listened to some of his answers to very easy questions.

And one of the questions because Biden, showing how tough he was during the election, said that Putin was a killer. So a reporter asked him during the election campaign, you called Vladimir Putin, ‘a killer.’ Do you still stand by that? Do you still call him a killer? (Imitates Biden)

Leahy: I think your imitation of Joe Biden presents him more articulately than he really was.

Carmichael: (Imitates Biden) (Laughter) C’mon man. That was yesterday. What’s tomorrow? Who is tomorrow? It’s embarrassing on one hand. I just have a suspicion that the midterms and I have great faith in the American people, in crowds, the wisdom of crowds.

And I think that the people are looking at what’s going on now and looking at Biden. And by the way, he’s giving everything to China that China wants. Everything. So the fix is in there. In fact, domestically, I can’t think of anything that China would want Joe Biden to do domestically that Joe Biden isn’t doing.

Leahy: Open borders.

Carmichael: Open borders, trying to trash our Democratic process, trying to divide the country,

Leahy: Trashing Americans who supported Donald Trump while on European soil. By the way, Politico, talk about the media. Here is their headline two days ago about Joe Biden in Europe.

Biden Flourishing in Foreign Policy. I gotta look at the dictionary. It’s sort of like the Democratic definition of infrastructure. What is the Democratic definition of flourishing?

Carmichael: The answer is walking up and down the steps here Air Force One without tripping. (Leahy laughs) That must be it.

Leahy: That is very good Crom.

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Alex Marlow: Breitbart Editor-in-Chief and Author of ‘Breaking the News’ Joins Host Leahy to Discuss His New Bestseller

Alex Marlow: Breitbart Editor-in-Chief and Author of ‘Breaking the News’ Joins Host Leahy to Discuss His New Bestseller


Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed Breitbart editor-in-chief and author of Breaking the News, Alex Marlow on the newsmakers line to discuss his new bestseller and the motivation behind it.

Leahy: Joined now on our newsmaker line by a good friend, colleague, and boss Breitbart News editor-in-chief and author of the best selling new book, Breaking the News: Exposing the Establishments Media’s, Hidden Deals and Secret Corruption. Alex Marlow! Good morning, Alex!

Marlow: Alex, great to be on with you! It’s my pleasure to be on in Tennessee.

Leahy: Well, that’s great. This is a little bit of reversal of roles because I’ve been a guest on your morning show on Sirius XM Breitbart News Daily several times. Now you have written this fabulous book. I bought it over the weekend, by the way. And so next time we meet in D.C. or L.A. at a company meeting, please sign it if you would.

Marlow: I will do that. And that will be in lieu of a Christmas bonus this year.

Leahy: (Laughs) Now, Alex, so I have gone through your book with a fine-tooth comb. It’s a bestseller, by the way. Page two. I want to talk to you about this. We’ve known each other for over a decade, and I’ve been writing at Breitbart since I guess 2009 full-time on staff since 2012.

I didn’t know this about you. Let me read this from page two. ‘When no division one baseball offers came in and I got accepted to the University of California Berkeley, I knew I needed to take this social experiment to a logical next step.

I was going to live in the heart of the left, the epicenter of the free speech movement.’ I didn’t know you were a big baseball guy. Did you play baseball in high school?

Marlow: I did. I was an obsessive, to be honest. I worked in a batting cage, which was really a rundown warehouse but it was one of the most special places of my childhood. And I was a total gym rat in that way.

And I was constantly thinking about baseball and coaching kids and playing with every single team I could possibly imagine. And I was quite good. I was never going to go all the way, but I didn’t think I was going to play division one and it didn’t work out.

And the other thing is, I didn’t think I was going to get into a school academically as rigorous as Berkeley. I was a good student, but, you know, I was playing baseball and doing debate clubs and I was playing music.

I didn’t have perfect grades. And so I didn’t think I would necessarily get into a school at that level. And that was a scenario that happened. I got into this top-tier school for academics, and I did not get into a top-tier baseball school.

It was one of the hardest decisions of my life. I decided you know what? I’m going to go to Berkeley, and I’m going to go learn. But I’m also going to do the social experiment where I, a guy who is already leaning conservative libertarian, I’m going to go and I’m going to go see what it’s like to live in the belly of the beast, the home of the free speech movement.

It was an unbelievable thing because it’s fun to write about, and I know it’ll pop off the page to people like you, Michael, who may have had a similar experience or some things in common.

But it really was the biggest decision of my life, in all honesty, because that was what set me on the path that I was on to be an integral part of Breitbart.

Leahy: What position did you play in baseball?

Marlow: I was a home run hitter, so I played outfield.

Leahy: (Laughs) Home run hitter. I am envious.

Marlow: Not an official position. So I had to stand in the outfield as I was waiting to hit home runs.

Leahy: Did you ever read Charlie Lau’s book on hitting, by the way – or Ted Williams?

Marlow: I didn’t. I had a lot of instruction, and I was really focused on hitting mechanically. But I read a few books. I read the Ted Williams book. I don’t know. Is there a trick I missed that maybe kept me from going all the way?

Leahy: I don’t know, of course, that Ted Williams booked the famous chart right where he had the color chart from Sports Illustrated, where you could see where the best pitches to hit were.

I was a lifetime high school 240 hitter. So I am envious of you. Infielder. Good field no-hit. Well, I didn’t know that about you, Alex. And I’ve already learned something very significant.

Now, here’s another thing I wanted to talk to you about very important to me about the new George Soros. Laurene Powell Jobs, the widow of Steve Jobs. This is what I found interesting.

She went to Wharton School of Finance at the University of Pennsylvania. Got an MBA from Stanford. She worked for Merrill Lynch and Goldman Sachs. And now she’s founded this thing called the Emerson Collective, which is, I guess, the least transparent philanthropy organization in the country. Tell us a little bit about what Laurene Powell Jobs has been up to in the past decade.

Marlow: Yeah, this is one of the most significant revelations of the book. And I was looking into the funding and the business structure and how some of these newsrooms operate because most of them don’t make money at this point.

Most of them are mostly a place for influence or information gathering or both. And often at the whims of billionaires, et cetera. And I was interested in looking at Laurene Powell Jobs, who is framed as a woman in tech and a philanthropist.

A group called Inside Philanthropy, which is no friend of the right, had called her the world’s least transparent. Mega giver. Always interesting when someone is giving a lot, Michael, but they’re not telling you exactly why or who’s getting it.

We just know they’re giving. Very interesting, particularly when you’re worth about $20,000,000,000. which is what she’s worth. It’s all inherited wealth. She frames herself as an activist and as someone who is a contributor in the tech world.

I have no evidence she does anything in tech other than that she married Steve Jobs, who passed away when he was young. And the Emerson Collective funds all sorts of left-wing media outlets from prestigious ones you’ve heard of, like The Atlantic, also Axios, which is big in D.C.

But then things like Mother Jones and ProPublica and now this, which are more activist. But then she funds this thing through something called an acronym called the Courier Newsroom, which is literally fake news.

It’s really repulsive. What it does is it launders Democrat talking points into local news stories. So you might be on Facebook thinking of reading something that’s a local news story and it’s really something from the Courier Newsroom, which is fake news designed to deceive you on behalf of Democrats.

She funds all this stuff and no one knows her name. And all of them point you towards the same villains and the same heroes, meaning Stacey Abrams good. The Bad Orange man Donald Trump is bad. All that stuff happens it seems at the same time. It’s pretty remarkable.

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Leahy: Alex, one of the things thing that’s so great about your editing and you’re writing is you get right to the point. On page 56, you talk about media tricks to fix the news. I’ll just read this.

‘Reading The New York Times, as well as any other establishment media publication, requires something like a secret decoder ring. What is written on the page is not always literal. And here are a couple of examples. ‘Anything that can be politicized will be politicized.

Good news on a preferred narrative typically appears on the front page. Bad news about a preferred narrative appears deep within the paper or not at all. I see this every day, everywhere, but particularly in The New York Times.’

Marlow: I’m thrilled to talk about this section. This is something where I’ve made my entire life in the news business. I’m 35. Andrew hired me as the first employee of Breitbart when I was 21.

And so all of this stuff is sort of old hat to me because I’ve had to do this full time. But I realized and I talked to people who are just observers of the news and are really struggling to figure out who to trust and who not to trust.

This is very helpful to them. And I think that they should actually if you pick up the book, you can take a photo of this with your phone and you could refer back to it. And you’ll see these patterns in your local paper, but in particular in these major national papers that are actually owned by these left-wing globalist billionaires.

And all of them are written in the same way. And there are lots of things like bad news on a narrative that the paper is trying to push. You’re not going to get that on the front page. And if you’re going to get on the front page, it’s only because you’re going to put this stuff that they don’t want deep within the article.

So hopefully you miss it. These types of things are very important because you realize you’re not crazy. Your favorite people, if you’re on the right, are always going to get a villainous photo.

If they get a photo at all. Your people who you might not like as much, they’re going to get a heroic photo where they look very grand and a champion. All this stuff is good to point out. And people have fun with this section, I think.

Leahy: I think so. It’s interesting because this I idea of, ‘objective news’, if there ever was any objective news, there certainly isn’t any today. One of the things I really like is you point out there are heroes and articles by the mainstream media and villains.

A hero, anyone who advances the causes of globalism, wokeness, and skepticism of America. A villain, basically, anybody who advances the cause of nationalism, conservatism, or traditional American values. Breitbart News is portrayed by the left in the mainstream media as a villain. And yet, Breitbart, we just report the facts.

Marlow: Exactly. And this is why someone like you or me, even if we achieve something positive in our lives, we’re not going to get a profile. Our equivalent on the leftwing outlet, of course, we get a profile that would be very flattering.

And if they did write us up, they would always write us up in a way as if, you know, LeahyI know you’re extremely educated. I’m a highly educated person. They would write about it as if it was like a big disappointment.

As if we had some sort of a fall from grace at some point. That’s how they would frame it. And all these things I lay out all these tricks so you see the pattern about what’s happening. And I also get into the hero points, which can be added based on your race or sex or sexual orientation, or socioeconomic status.

So if you’re a white person, you’re definitely not going to get that. But maybe if you’re a gay person, you can get some points for that. And then if you’re a woman, of course, that scores you points.

And all these things add up. And this is how they cobble together and how high to place a person within the hierarchy of their paper hero.

Leahy: In your book, Alex, you talk about a mainstream media figure who now lives in Nashville, Tennessee. We make fun of him a lot on The Tennessee Star Report. We’ve invited him to come in, by the way, he’s never shown up. His name is Jon Meacham. He’s a historian.

Here’s what you write about him. In November of 2020, just after the election, Jon Meacham went on MSNBC as a paid contributor and authority on the presidency to praise a speech by Joe Biden. A speech Meacham himself helped write. Meacham didn’t disclose that on-air, and he was touting the magnificence of his own ideas.

Marlow: Yeah, you have a great eye. I have to tell you, Michael, my favorite part of the book, I must say, and I spent a year researching this, is that I was able to uncover lots of original news stories.

For example, the Laurene Powell Jobs story that no one’s caught. And that’s what I’m most proud of. And I’ve even gotten a huge reaction not just from stars to talk radio, but from lawmakers, from Senators Ernst, Blackburn, Cotton, and Devin Nunes.

And all of these people who are real big-time players have reacted strongly to the book. But my favorite sections to write, some of them were things like this. This is something that people knew.

But I had a blast just going through and giving a hard time to some of these people, like Jon Meacham, who presents himself, as this incredibly irradiate important figure on cable news. And he’s really just the same orange man bad type of left-wing pundit that we’ve all gotten so bored of over the years during the Trump era.

That’s who this guy is. And he got busted stone-cold opining on his own speech. A speech he wrote that Joe Biden delivered. But the funniest part of all in this story is that he did end up getting removed from MSNBC over it.

I go through dozens and dozens of improprieties and fake news pushed by MSNBC in the book. But this is the only example I could find if someone actually getting fired.

Leahy: Well, somebody who can’t get fired because he owns a company is Michael Bloomberg, the former Mayor of New York City and the erstwhile presidential candidate. He gave an interview on the campaign trail to PBS Firing Line, Margaret Hoover, and in the interview, Bloomberg praised China’s handling of environmental issues and defended their authoritarian system of government. What’s going on here with that?

Marlow: This one is the most unbelievable thing in the book, I would say, by a nearer margin. But Bloomberg connections to China are just insane. We all saw him awkwardly praise China and say that China is doing a good job on pollution, and they’re not.

That Xi Jin Ping is not a dictator. Of course, he is. And over the years, he has gone over to places like Singapore and praised the Chinese at an insane level. And we also know that Bloomberg L.P. has incredible amounts of access to the Chinese market.

Bloomberg’s business is gigantic. It’s bigger than the AP. It’s bigger than CNN. It’s bigger than The New York Times. He’s got a near-monopoly in financial news. And, of course, the money he makes largely from the Chinese he donates the Democratic candidates.

So it’s very nefarious. But when you go to see the level he’s willing to go, it is very disturbing. Year after year, either Bloomberg himself or top people in his company fly to Beijing and quite literally, Michael, meet with the ministers are propaganda.

The people who are responsible for the Communist regimes, talking points, who are also responsible for the licenses that Bloomberg depends on to get access to China for his business. And they talk about collaboration between the two nations.

This guy almost became President. It wasn’t that close, but he wanted to be. And he got a fair number of votes in the process when he ran last time around. Disturbing stuff and stuff, I think should be deeply investigated.

Leahy: Another question, Alex. This is the book that gosh, I wish I’d written it. It’s so good. It’s such a great book. It’s a bestseller. You do three hours a day on the radio. You’re the editor in chief at Breitbart News.

I mean, there are dozens and dozens of stories every day you review and sign off on and edit. How did you have time to write this deeply sourced book?

Marlow: Thank you so much for that question. I mean, it’s the highest compliment you could offer. And I love talking about this because I didn’t know I could do it, but I wanted to do it.

And I’ll tell you, it was this simple. I set a goal for myself every day of trying to write about 500 or 600 words, something reasonable. And before you know it, if you start doing that and you’re diligent, you can keep two at five or six days a week, maybe seven if you’re really in the zone.

Then before you know it, you have a draft. The first draft might not be that great, but then you’ll probably have enough to be motivated to edit the draft. And then when you edit it, it might be pretty good when you’re done with that. That was the process.

And I did have a couple of guys help you with research which was really helpful on loan to me from Peter Schweizer’s amazing shop that he has. So it was an incredible process. Incredibly difficult, but worthwhile. And I think your audience will love it.

Leahy: Alex, I’ve read it. It’s a great book. I recommend it highly. Breaking the News: Exposing the Establishment Media’s Hidden Deals and Secret Corruption by my friend colleague boss editor in chief at Breitbart News Alex Marlow. Alex, thanks so much for joining us today.

Marlow: Michael, my pleasure. Let’s do it again.

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Washington Correspondent Neil W. McCabe on the Odd Disinterest of Hunter Biden’s Sprial of Debauchery and Corruption

Washington Correspondent Neil W. McCabe on the Odd Disinterest of Hunter Biden’s Sprial of Debauchery and Corruption


Live from Music Row Wednesday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed Tennessee Star National Correspondent Neil McCabe to the newsmakers line to weigh in on the Hunter Biden laptop saga and how everyone from the CIA to the mainstream media continues to turn a blind eye.

Leahy: We are joined on our newsmaker line right now by the best Washington correspondent in the country and the Washington Correspondent for the Star News Network and The Tennessee Star, Neil McCabe.

You’ve giving breaking news about Hunter Biden in that presentation in your story that the former producer of Stephen K. Bannon’s War Room made last night to the Manhattan Young Republicans Club. Tell us more about that. You broke that story at The Tennessee Star.

McCabe: I think what’s interesting about the Hunter Biden laptop or hard drive is that number one, almost immediately after The New York Post came out with that first story, the mainstream media and leading national security people like John Brennan and Clapper and Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA, former National security advisors.

All of these people signed a giant letter saying that this is Russian propaganda and that is fake. And if you Google the Hunter Biden laptop today, the Google search will tell you that this is a fake thing and that it was invented by Russian propaganda and that’s it.

And this is less than two weeks before the election. You have this amazing archive of Joe Biden mixing of his private family benefit and his public service. And I defy you to show me another archive that you can look at to see how a politician and his family are mixing sort of this service and business in real-time.

Carmichael: Where’s this archive, Neil?

McCabe: It’s the laptop. Well, I mean, I can get you a copy of the hard drive, if you like one, but it’s around. Vish Burra who is the producer for Steve Bannon’s War Room and Jack Maxey who was his co-host, hey did the dive into it where a lot of people sort of brushed it off and dismissed it.

And frankly, there’s a lot of people who just don’t have the time to dig into this thing. And it’s the Chinese, it’s the Middle East, it’s Mexico, and it’s Ukraine. And then, of course, there is Hunter’s own sort of subplot of Hunter’s personal life, which is a train wreck of drugs, alcohol, engagements, and entanglements with law enforcement, where he’s having an affair with his brother’s widow.

He’s having an affair with his brother’s widow’s sister. There’s sort of crazy sort of hint that there may have been something going on with his own niece. And there it is. You would think someone would be interested in it.

And that’s what Vish Burra presented to the New York Young Republicans last night. And that’s what you’re going to see more and more of. I absolutely am convinced.

Leahy: So Vish Burra had the hard drive that was dropped off in the Delaware computer store. He has a copy of it of that hard drive. And he did a presentation called Hunter Biden: A Full Frontal Expose last night at the New York Young Republicans Club in Manhattan.

It suggests that there was well, I don’t know, said other than semi-quasi pornographic elements to this. Is that true?

McCabe: There are some salacious details, but part of this whole story is you have a bagman for the Biden family operations who is a spiral of debauchery, and these emails and texts there on the hard drive.

He keeps reaching out to his dad, and his dad is kind of aloof. His dad basically just wants to keep him going to operate as the bagman, and then he’s involved with all of these women. There’s a sadness to it all for Hunter personally.

The real tragedy is that that these guys’ decisions are made by our government based on this family’s need to have a dysfunctional father-son relationship and the need of the Biden family to make bank off of dad’s influence.

Carmichael: Somebody will make that into a movie.

McCabe: A reporter from The New York Post has a book deal. Vish has said he’s going to be making this presentation around the country. He’s sort of putting together his own sort of tour. I don’t know how you keep it in the bag.

Carmichael: He’ll need to make sure he has a good security detail.

Leahy: I can tell you how you can keep it in the bag. Give it to the FBI and no one will ever see it again. (Laughter)

McCabe: The FBI had it. And then, of course, the FBI has done nothing. The Delaware State Police were given it because there may have been some problems with an underage child and that’s never seen the light of day.

And yet when Hunter puts out his book he gets the full treatment. I think he was on Ellen. I know was on Jimmy Kimmel. I know he was on the Today Show. He basically got the full mainstream media book tour treatment for a book that probably if it sold 20,000 copies total I’d be shocked.

Leahy: I guess the key element here of this is the utter corruption, if you will, of the mainstream media and reporting on this.

McCabe: It’s unbelievable that there is zero curiosity about any of this. A lot of people play up sort of the stuff that obviously there are prostitutes and there are other people where he makes Hunter makes videos, and the women, they seem to know that they’re being videoed.

But maybe they didn’t expect that Hunter would have an account with Porn Hub where he was loading up some of this stuff.

But even that stuff, which is kind of, like the worst part of our media, has been kind of ignored. But you look at how he’s working on behalf of this Chinese energy company, and he’s going to Mexico trying to purchase oil fields there.

He’s going to Romania to try to secure oil fields in Romania. He’s basically the frontman for the Chinese. So maybe people would be hesitant to do business with some Chicom guy. But, no, this is Hunter Biden of Joe Biden.

Well, okay, I’ll take that meeting. I’ll speak to Vice President Biden’s son. And now we know, as you were saying yesterday in Alex Marlow’s book, Hunter Biden was taking flights out of Andrews Air Force Base.

We know that when he was flying to do business in Mexico, he was flying with his dad on Air Force Two. We know he flew on Air Force Two to China and in Peter Sweitzer’s book. First, they go to Japan, and the Japanese sit down with Biden and they say, listen, we need you to play hardball with the Chinese because they’re seizing territory.

They’re claiming territory that’s supposed to either be a neutral territory or belonged to us. And they’re threatening to shoot down our airliners if our airliners do these air routes. You have to really get tough on the Chinese. Joe’s like, don’t worry about it. I got it. He and Hunter fly down to China, and they give up the shoe.

Leahy: They give the whole thing up.

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