Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett: ‘We Are Rapidly Approaching the Appearance of a Banana Republic’

Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett: ‘We Are Rapidly Approaching the Appearance of a Banana Republic’

 

Live from Music Row Thursday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed Congressman Tim Burchett (TN-02) to the newsmakers line.

During the first hour, Burchett weighed in on what he coined the “snap” impeachment of President Trump explaining why it was Republican Liz Cheney who screamed the loudest as a personal vendetta in the name of her father’s failed war policies and Trump’s cut off of the industrial war complex. He also explained the danger that using impeachment as a political tool would do to future presidents.

Leahy: Our next guest is on the newsmaker line. Congressman Tim Burchett from the Second Congressional District in Tennessee up in Knoxville joins us this morning. Good morning Congressman Burchett. Thanks for joining us.

Burchett: Thanks for having me, brother. You can call me Tim.

Leahy: (Chuckles) All right, Tim.

Burchett: Whenever have anybody ever says, hey congressman I usually just keep walking because they’re usually talking about some 80 or 80-year-old guy shuffling down the hall. They’re not talking about me. So I just go with Tim.

Leahy: You are a guy who understands how the federal and state government works. You worked you you were elected to the state legislature in Tennessee, Knox County Executive. Now a member of the House of Representatives. What on earth do you make of this lightning speed impeachment of the president? The Groundhog Day second impeachment of the president yesterday in the House chamber? What was that like being there?

Burchett: Well, I’d call it a snap impeachment. It really was. And it’s just Pelosi playing her game. She’s just selling memberships. Her leadership is so inept and she is so, I don’t know if disheveled is the right word. She’s just incapable of leading and she has to have controversy because if not, they’ll focus on her leadership style.

She can’t run meetings. She’s just not capable brother. I mean she is awful. And so this is her sticking her finger in the President’s eye, and we all know it. It’s just inexcusable the way she acts and all her little stunts she’s been pulling as of late. Democrats use the carrot and the stick a lot better than Republicans. I know people who don’t care for her and her angry because all she wants to do is stay in power and that’s what it’s all about in Washington D.C.

It’s not about Democrats or Republicans are right or wrong. It’s about power who’s got it, who wants it, and how do they get it? And She does that very well. She rewards people very well and she punishes people very well through her henchmen and they are blindly loyal. And so you can’t really find much good to say about her actually. With her selling out to The Squad she has proven that she’d be a conservative if it would keep her in power. I’m convinced of that because she has no moral compass.

Leahy: Tim, this is not exactly what the founders had in mind when the Constitution was passed and ratified.

Burchett: No it wasn’t. They were supposed to have hearings. I mean even the hearings that Adam Schiff allegedly, you know facilitated before he and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee which was really just a rival between those two, and that goes back to my power statement with them cutting ahead of each other in the previous impeachment. This is just not anything that was ever dreamed of in any shape, form, or fashion. When I was in the state legislature, I remember one time I told the Democrat chairman I said I’m afraid we’re going to open up Ponderosas box.

Leahy: (Chuckles) That’s funny. Ponderosa’s box.

Burchett: That’s exactly what the Democrats have done. They’ve used it as a political tool and they’re not going to get the toothpaste back in the tube brother. Because from here on out somebody is going to have a difference with the President and they are going to say let’s impeach him. And then that’s the way it’s going to be. We are rapidly approaching the appearance of a Banana Republic unless we get some serious control.

And if good conservative people don’t get back to the polls, you know, this last election and I read that 25 million Evangelical Christians and over two million sportsmen did not vote in the presidential election. And we’re getting ready for what becomes of that but with the overturn of all three branches radical Democrat Party.

Leahy: What do you make of Liz Cheney? She’s number three in the House leadership. She was one of 10 Republicans who joined the Democrats in this snap impeachment. What is she trying to accomplish?

Burchett: She doesn’t like the president. And it goes back to it’s more about defending her father’s in my opinion, failed war policies. The industrial war complex, people say it doesn’t exist but brother it does exist. Let’s go to war. There is no reason for us to be in these far-fetched wars all over the world. Under President Trump’s leadership, we actually export energy now, which is just unheard of. Unheard of!

And there’s no reason for us to be over there. Now, you can’t always tell people to show me one East Tennessee boy or girl whose life is worth losing over what’s going on overseas? And that’s what this is about. You know Democrats used to be against the war. President Trump’s against war and bringing our troops home.

And now all of a sudden the Democrats are rallying for war. And that’s what this is about. I think it’s preserving her father’s legacy and it’s unfortunate because American boys and girls are coming home either still in body bags or mentally incapacitated. Did you know our military is in over 100 countries right now? 100 countries!

I dare say most of the people I know in Congress probably couldn’t name 100 countries. But it’s just inexcusable. And you know, they are trying to label this as some sort of freedom caucus thing. I was in the airport yesterday and there were 11 of us standing there and there were all ends of the spectrum. If leader McCarthy calls the meeting she’s going to have her work cut out to stay in power. I’ll just give you that.

Leahy: Yeah, well, it won’t break my heart if you and others kick her out of leadership with the House minority group there. You’re a political analyst as well as being a member of the House. I thought that, in my view, they only got 10 Republicans to join them after all of this, you know media onslaught against the president’s speech at that rally. I thought that was not a very strong showing in terms of the number of Republicans had that joined this effort. What what’s your take on that?

Burchett: That’s not a groundswell. It was very predictable who went and why they went. If you look at them overall except for Liz, they are in very close districts. Everybody in this game is a political survivalist, you know, the political animals. And they’re reading the numbers. And I don’t question them because I know them all.

But you know, it’s obvious they were under a lot of pressure. And some people never held office before. When I was in the state legislature, we get three phone calls now and I considered that a Groundswell before Al Gore invented the internet. (Leahy chuckles) I used to get three phones in Knoxville and I’d start sweating.

Leahy: Hey, last question for you. When all these controversial bills that they want to jam through for the left-wing agenda come up…example, there are arguments that they’re going to want to add the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico as states that would be one example. Of course, packing the courts would be another. Do you see any of the 222 Democrats breaking from the party line? Or are they going to all stick with the left-wing radical agenda?

Burchett: I don’t see any of them breaking from it. They’ll be in lockstep. Just like I said, carrot and the stick. The voters did you remember that because you’re going to see our power eroded just exponentially. It’s in warp speed right now because there’s nothing holding them back. And The Squad will be literally setting the agenda for the Democrat Party.

Leahy: Well we’ve got rough waters ahead. Congressman Tim Burchett, it’s great having you on the program, and look forward to having you back on again.

Burchett: You call me anytime brother. I love Nashville. I spent six years in the legislature and I love the radio. Keep it up, brother. The first amendment is a great thing when somebody says something you don’t like.

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Tennessee Star National Correspondent Neil W. McCabe Weighs in on a Second Impeachment of President Trump

Tennessee Star National Correspondent Neil W. McCabe Weighs in on a Second Impeachment of President Trump

 

Live from Music Row Wednesday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed Tennessee Star National Correspondent Neil W. McCabe to the newsmakers line live from Washington, D.C.

During the third hour, McCabe weighed in on the looming second impeachment of President Trump and whether or not it would lead to a trial in the Senate. He added that he believes the president would be impeached yet may still offer a range of pardons to warriors and possibly a pre-emtptive Stephen K. Bannon.

Leahy: On our newsmaker line our Washington correspondent for the Star News Network Neil McCabe. Good morning, Neil.

McCabe: Hey, Mike, Crom. Glad to be with you and good morning.

Leahy: Well we’ve got seven days and 5 hours left in the Trump administration. Nancy Pelosi and apparently Liz Cheney now wants to impeach him in the next seven days and five hours. And then there are rumblings about whether or not there would if impeached whether or not before his term ends for a second time. Rumblings about or not there would be a trial in the Senate. Tell us what you know about this, you know, unifying process going on in Washington today.

McCabe: Yeah. Let me just say that right before Thanksgiving Politico had this headline about a profile of Liz Cheney and that headline was She Kind of Reminds You of Margaret Thatcher.

Leahy: (Laughs) Excuse me. I can’t stop laughing.

Carmichael: I think they confused that with Gretchen Whitmer. (Leahy laughs)

McCabe: Let me just say that among the House Republican leadership like the guys who want to get along and go along. Al the good-time Charlies, they love Liz Cheney because she takes on Matt Gaetz. She takes on Jim Jordan. Now she’s taking on Kevin McCarthy. And frankly, she’s going to use this to catapult her challenge against Kevin McCarthy for the actual leadership of the House.

So inside the House Republican conference what’s really going on here is Liz Cheney is they’ve been her bid to take over. And they won’t have leadership, I doubt that they’ll change leadership this session. But what will happen is Liz Cheney is basically going to become the titular leader of the sort of the Washington party inside the Republican conference. Now, McConnell has already said that the trial will begin after Trump leaves office.

And because of what they call unanimous consent Schumer and the Democrats are going to let McConnell continue to run the Senate until Trump leaves. And basically, that allows McConnell to sort of like, you know wash his hands of the actual trial. So the trial will be run by Schumer and I doubt that the president will be convicted in the Senate. Joe Manchin has already said that the votes aren’t there.

And you have to be very careful about what’s been up in the media and what people say. And then you have to compare that to what people actually do. And when the rubber hits the road there are going to be very few Republicans, maybe 20 or 30, who vote for impeachment today. And in the Senate, if Trump has 35 votes he’s good.

And so it’ll be a little dicey for the Republicans in the Senate because, in 2022, there are at least 20 Republican seats up for re-election. And that’s going to be a heavy lift. John Coon is up in South Dakota. And you know, he’s been a real problem for the Trump administration for the last four years. But you know Trump is already talking about helping anyone who will primary soon. And going back to Liz Cheney, Trump did win Wyoming with 70 percent of the vote. So it’s like, hey lady, look at the numbers.

Wyoming’s a very tough state to run in statewide. It’s almost impossible to do polling there as you might remember Mike with the trouble we’ve had in the past doing polling there. And so, you know Dick Cheney, her father, is obviously very popular there. And so, you know, will she be primaried to be defeated? I don’t know in Wyoming. But it is important to remember that her state voted 70 percent for Trump.

Leahy: Now, let me ask you this a week from today when we have you on the call, will President Trump have been impeached for a second time by the House of Representatives?

McCabe: Yes.

Carmichael: Okay. Now, will Trump when he’s out of office if they try to pass it to the Senate because the 25th Amendment is actually pretty clear on conviction to remove the president. There’s never been a case before the Supreme Court as to whether or not a person who is not in office can be removed from office. There’s never been one. So will it go to the courts?

McCabe: There was a Secretary of War.

Carmichael: There wasn’t a case. There’s never been a court case.

Leahy: Let’s just clarify it.

McCabe: I don’t know if you want to give the Supreme Court a role in this, A. And B, impeachment is a political process, not a judiciary or legal process. And so politically you there is no will to impeach or convict Trump, especially after he’s left office. We forget. Once you leave office something changes. Clinton and Obama were both relatively popular when they left, but it changes you and people think about you differently once you are an ex-president.

Nixon was the most hated man in America when they railroaded him out on bogus charges with dirty judges. But having said that, by the end of Nixon’s life, he was one of Reagan’s top advisors. He was even advising Nixon, you know the days before he died Nixon was like that respected. Things change when you become an ex-president. It’s like the popular support is there and that’s the most important thing. Trump and the people are lined up and the politicians know it.

Leahy: Neil will there be a trial in the Senate? And if there is, will the former president be convicted?

McCabe: No. There will be a trial. And he will not be convicted.

Carmichael: I believe the Supreme court will have to rule on whether or not it is permissible to have a trial to remove a president after they are not there. I do believe the Supreme Court will take that up.

McCabe: I think the Senate would say thanks for your opinion Supreme Court.

Leahy: None of your business. We’ll deal with it.

Carmichael: We are heading down a very very dangerous road then. Let me ask this question then. If President Trump pardons himself…

McCabe: For what?

Carmichael: Can a president pardon himself under the Constitution?

McCabe: The president can pardon himself. You have two problems. One, he didn’t do anything. And number two you can’t pardon yourself for impeachment because (Inaudible talk)

Carmichael: I’m not talking about impeachment. Can he give himself a broad pardon for anything he committed while he was the president?

McCabe: Yes.

Carmichael: There are people who say he can’t. Should that go to the Supreme Court?

Leahy: Well the question I would ask you Neil is do you believe the president will pardon himself in the next seven days?

McCabe: No.

Leahy: I would agree with that.

Carmichael: I disagree with that.

McCabe: I think there’s going to be a rash of pardons. I think there might be a pre-emptive Stephen K. Bannon pardon. I would look for some of these warriors who are being charged with war crimes by the Pentagon for what they did on our battlefields. I think we may see some of that but you know, Crom, the whole pardon thing, I don’t think Trump will pardon himself because he doesn’t believe what crime would he parked himself for? I can’t think of anything that he could be charged with legally.

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Crom Carmichael Weighs in on Wednesday’s Capitol Hill Breach, Gaslighting the Public, and Invoking the 25th Amendment

Crom Carmichael Weighs in on Wednesday’s Capitol Hill Breach, Gaslighting the Public, and Invoking the 25th Amendment

 

Live from Music Row Friday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael to the studio who discussed how it was the Democrats that benefited from the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday afternoon.

Leahy: We are joined as we almost always are on Wednesdays by our good friend the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael. Crom, good morning,

Carmichael: Michael, good morning, sir.

Leahy: It’s a little snowy out there this morning. Did you have a safe ride in the snow?

Carmichael: Well the snow had stopped. You saw something I didn’t.

Leahy: Well, Crom I’ve been talking all morning about this. And I want to set it up by saying the event on Wednesday when the peaceful Trump rally on the mall transformed into something that wasn’t peaceful when rioters breached the Capitol rioters. Rioters, it turns out, and possibly some Antifa, possibly some Trump supporters. But nonetheless, the rule of law was broken.

And I’ve said it’s a watershed in this sense that our side of constitutional populist conservatives lost the moral high ground with those events. And the question that I’ve posed is what happens now with the conservative movement? Do you agree with me on the moral high ground issue? And what do you think happens now?

Carmichael: Well, I don’t know if I agree or disagree on the moral high ground issue because I think that there were some Trump supporters who are in the building. I think there were some Antifa people who were instigators of the violence first with the police and then and then the breaching of the building. The Capitol Hill police were strangely and completely unprepared.

Leahy: Strangely.

Carmichael: And when I say “strangely” and I’m putting that in quotes because I think that they were told to stand down and stay away and let the breach happen. because you have to ask yourself who benefited? Yeah who benefited from the breach of the nation’s Capitol. Who benefited? It certainly wasn’t Trump. It certainly wasn’t it wasn’t the Republicans. It wasn’t the conservative movement.

And so there’s a lot in history that is staged. I think this past election, there’s a great deal that we staged. And so do I think there were some people who were in the building? Yeah. Do I think they’re running around kind of having a great time? Yeah. Did they maybe break a couple of chairs and sit in speaker Pelosi’s chair? Yes.

Leahy: I’ve actually seen some reports that the person sitting in Pelosi’s chair was an Antifa person. I’ve seen those reports. I don’t know whether it’s true or not.

Carmichael: Well at some point that may or may not become a factor or not. I don’t know. But but but the bottom line is that the Democrats benefited from what happened.

Leahy: A crisis Crom is a terrible thing to waste.

Carmichael: Yeah. When you create the crisis. That’s part of it.

Leahy: Yeah, exactly.

Carmichael: And so and you know, and then the media called it just ignored what’s happening in the past. Now, I’m not saying all this in complaining because we’re at a point now where I learned yesterday at lunch where the term gaslighting came from. Do you know where it came from?

Leahy: I don’t I’d love to be enlightened.

Carmichael: There was a movie back in the I think in the 30s or 40s. An old movie where the husband wanted his wife to think she was crazy.

Leahy: Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman.

Carmichael: Okay. And so what he did was he would do things that were slight and imperceptible. And so then when she would comment on them he would say well that’s not happening. And so and so in other words, it’s one of those things where are you going to believe me or believe your lying eyes.

Leahy: Exactly.

Carmichael: So that’s what’s going on now in this country. I would also recommend to our listeners, my daughter recommended to me that I watch a documentary that’s on Netflix called The Social Dilemma. And it is a documentary with interviews of people with a little bit of drama in it. When I say drama I don’t mean drama in the sense of drama but how it’s done.  And that is how social media companies manipulate people’s thinking.

Leahy: And clearly happening.

Carmichael: And that they didn’t intend to do that when they started but now they’re being paid to do it. And these are people who used to work for these companies who have quit because of the ethical problems that they see.

Leahy: There is a professor at Harvard Robert Epstein I think his name is, who’s made that argument for like 10 years and said that Google for instance would be able to change like 5 or 10 million votes using those techniques.

Carmichael: Well, but I’m not talking about votes. I’m talking about thinking. It’s much bigger than voting. And so so I would encourage our listeners to watch it.

Leahy: It’s on Netflix. The Social Dilemma. I’m going to watch it.

Carmichael: Yeah, The Social Network I think was the movie about Zuckerberg and Facebook. But this is The Social Dilemma and it’s well worth watching because we are observing it in real-time. Then you move forward and it didn’t take very long after the Capitol was breached for them to move back into session go ahead and finish what they would have done anyway. And what Hawley was doing and what Ted Cruz was doing would not have changed the results.

Leahy: I use the term Crom, that process, I agree with you on that. I use the term almost akin to a kangaroo court in terms of the way they were looking at the evidence.

Carmichael: Michael there’s where you and I differ. If the outcome were going to be different it would have been done when the electors were voted on. That’s a job for the state legislatures. It’s not a job for Congress to overturn what the state legislators did. They voted for the electors. They sent them to Pence.

Leahy: I will make one little correction on that. The state legislators actually didn’t do that.

Carmichael: Well, whoever did it the envelopes got to Pence. He was going to open them. Nothing in Washington was going to change what was in those envelopes.

Leahy: That is a true statement.

Carmichael: Okay. So if nothing was going to change it, that doesn’t mean that what Hawley and Ted Cruz and the Republican House members when they objected to it and what they were intending to do was shine a light on the election fraud.

Leahy: And they said that. They were saying we don’t expect this will change the outcome. We just want to have the information out there.

Carmichael: And that’s all valid. All I’m saying is for people who thought that once the envelopes were in the Senate that what was in the envelopes was going to be changed by people in Washington, as much as I would like for it to be changed that wasn’t going to happen. So what did happen is because of the breach so-called of the Capitol, all of the House and Senate went to someplace safe. And then after the danger part was over they then raced back and finished their work literally in the middle of the night.

Leahy: Literally. And nobody was paying attention.

Carmichael: Nobody was paying attention.

Leahy: Because it was all about what happened from the breach.

Carmichael: Right. And so then they moved quickly to the next day invoking the 25th Amendment.

Leahy: Well, there were calls for the invoking of the 25th amendment by Democrats but not from the joint session.

Carmichael: No. But the calls were from the leadership of the Democrat Party. From Pelosi and Schumer.

Leahy: Shockingly Crom, we have a story at The Tennessee Star. I know this will shock you. Steve Cohen and Congressman Cooper here have called for invoking the 25th amendment.

Carmichael: Okay. So at any rate. So that is now happening. Then you have to ask yourself, why would a party that claims over and over again with a leader now president-elect Biden. Now president-elect saying that we need to heal and come together? Why would they immediately call for the removal of President Trump?

Leahy: I have an answer to that question. Go ahead. They don’t want to heal. They don’t want to come together. What they want to do is crush any opposition to their agenda.

Carmichael: Here’s what is interesting. I have some friends of mine who are Republicans. They have been supportive of what I would call the institutional Republican Party for years. I have no idea what they think of Ronald Reagan because I’ve never asked them because that’s a long time ago.

Leahy: A long time ago.

Carmichael: But to a person, they are very upset with Trump and have been ever since he’s been the president. And when I asked him why it’s always about his behavior.

Leahy: Yes. Okay, not his policies, his behavior.

Carmichael: Yes. But they can’t get past his behavior and discuss his policies. The Democrats on the other hand are exactly, as far as my friends are concerned, about exactly the opposite.

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Photo “Capitol Protest” by Elijah Schaffer.