Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed Metro Nashville’s City Council Member-at-Large Steve Glover to the newsmakers line capital spending plan and the fiscal insanity of the left-wing majority council members.
Leahy: On our newsmaker line the voice of sanity in Nashville, Metro Councilmember At-Large, Steve Glover. Good morning, Steve.
Glover: Good morning. That would depend upon which side you’re talking to. We certainly would want common sense and sanity must rule. On the other side, they define it as insanity.
Leahy: Let me just step back a little bit. And so there you are. There 40 members of the national Metro Council. Five Metro council members at large. You’re one of those five. 35 from districts with 40 members. It looks like typically the vote on this half-billion-dollar capital spending plan was 30 in favor of it seven against it. So you got at least 30 in my view a kind of lunatic left-wingers on the Metro Council. How do you show up every day for those meetings and listen to them talk and rant? How do you do it, Steve?
Glover: Well, let me put it to you this way. We are 100,000 plus strong in Davidson County and at some point, we’re going to wake up and realize that. And realize that, we actually have a voice. I just keep forging ahead because I’m blessed enough that the people of Nashville elected me and I’m going to do my job. I’m going to represent the people who want to protect the sanctity of our financial base in Nashville.
Even though it’s eroded on a daily basis. I’m going to continue to fight that because that’s what I said I would do. And I’m going to be a man of my word. I will continue doing that. And so that’s how I get up every day. And that’s how I go fight. Now, the new message is we are 100,000 plus strong and we better wake up and realize it. And we better start doing with the others that are much smaller than we are have been doing in Nashville and that’s to start demanding, demanding answers.
Leahy: I like the fight in your voice Steve because I think we need it. Let me ask you this question. Why 30 of the 40 members of the Metro Council vote for this outrageous spending bill on the 500 million dollar Capital spending plan? About those 30 people. My perception is that they are that’s kind of the rise of what I would call the apparatus-like class.
That is people who very few of them have small businesses. Most of them have some kind of government-related work and they’ve all bought into this left-wing ideology. They’re not open-minded at all and they lack common sense. But that’s just my view. What am I missing? Why are we electing people like that to the Metro Council?
Glover: Well, because most people don’t think local elections are important. I think if you bore down on it, I think there might be three of us that are actually fully self-employed on the council. I believe two of those are Republicans. One of them is a very moderate Democrat which I have a great relationship. Let me just say. Often we both are very similar because we understand the bottom line. And who you vote for for president, that’s your choice. Certainly, I didn’t like the way you described it in the last segment I believe how that worked exactly.
But, you know people need to understand the local elections we’re going to hit you a lot harder than the feds will because what we do every day affects your life every day. And I preach it and I’m going to be preaching it for the next two and a half years. You better wake up. you better understand. Because if you don’t the Nashville that so many of us love is dwindling rapidly, but it will be completely gone unless we wake up and start demanding that we have a responsible government.
Cunningham: Steve, this is Ben. What do you think is a realistic upside for Republicans if Republicans really get to work? And I want to emphasize you one countywide. You got elected countywide.
Glover: With almost 40 percent of the vote. With almost 40 percent of the vote.
Cunningham: Right. If Republicans get to work in Davidson County? What is a realistic upside out of those 40 seats?
Glover: I think that if we concentrate it properly and if we look at the conservative moderate libertarian base, then what you’re looking at is somewhere between 12 and 15 seats. That’s enough to make a difference Ben. As you are well aware. You’re pretty familiar with Metro Council. If you’ve got 12 to 15 seats, that’s a big enough voice to make a big difference.
Leahy: Well, the thing is we look at this and it looks like the next election for city council is a little over two years from now in August of 2023. We’ve got a long haul in the next two years. How frustrating is it to actually say things that make common sense and when the vast majority of your colleagues on the Metro Council, my words not yours, have no common sense?
Glover: Well, let me explain it to you this way. It’s a lot easier for me to do what my convictions are because I can go to sleep at night and I can lay my head on the pillow and I can know I’ve done everything I can for the taxpayers of Nashville and represented the people who elected me. It’s a lot easier for me to do that than to conform to something I absolutely do not agree with.
I do not believe in and feel like the taxpayers are the ones who ultimately are the losers there. So how hard is it for me? Believe it or not, it’s not that challenging because I’m that convicted to the people who elected me. And I told them I would go do and I’m doing what I said I would do.
Leahy: You represent the entire County.
Leahy: When you go out in public and you talk to people, do you get a different rep reception from them than when you make a very good common sense point in Nashville Metro Council?
Glover: It’s actually kind of amazing the number of places I go. And I’m all over the place. I mean I try to be out as much as possible. I’m all over the place from Bellevue to Hermitage to Goodlettsville, Joelton, and all over the Brentwood area. And everything almost in between except for the downtown core. I mean, that’s a little far left and they don’t tend to like me very much there.
But the majority of the places I go, the reception’s unbelievable because there are a lot of Nashvillians that are extremely common sensed and fiscally conservative. No matter who you voted for President that’s your choice. But there are fiscal-conscious individuals that want to make sure that their children and their grandchildren have a city to grow up in along with a country. Ben, I think you said it earlier.
Tennessee is doing a phenomenal job. Our pension. Our Reserve fund may not be quite as high as you’d like to see but look at Nashville. Our reserve funds are just now getting up above five-six percent again because we tax people 34 to 37 percent. Our government has been irresponsible for multiple multiple multiple decades on the spending and it’s gotten worse over the last decade and a half.
And so now, I’m hoping people are waking up. and the one reason I preach the 100,000 strong is because in the last election our mayor was elected with less than a hundred thousand people. If we 100,000 get out and we vote and we work and we work diligently, we can make a major difference in Nashville and we can start turning the ship and right the course.
Leahy: Steve, on another topic that is of concern to many many people in Nashville and many business people, I saw a news report where Broadway and downtown Nashville was jumping pretty good this weekend. Lots of people coming in. The Fifth and Broadway development is opened up and that hopefully will be a shot in the arm to Downtown Nashville. When do you expect things to be back to normal?
Glover: Well, it should have gotten back to normal I believe by the first of June. It really should have Ben. by all indicators that that was the right time to do it. Some decisions were made whether I agree with them or not. The decisions have been made and it is what it is. And certainly, by the Fourth of July, we have to be demanding there were wide open for business.
Other states are doing it now and other counties around us are doing it. The only County that’s suffering financially right now is still Davidson County on sales tax because our people never stop shopping. They were going to other counties. So by July 4th, if we’re not opened up full blast, we better start screaming to the top of our lungs.
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Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed Metro Nashville’s City Council Member-at-Large Steve Glover to the newsmakers line.
During the third hour, Glover reflected on Mayor Cooper’s dishonest pledge to be fiscally conservative if elected and his 180 degree turn. Later on in the segment, Leahy suggested that Glover create a committee confirmation requirement that would make sworn statements mandatory.
Leahy: We are joined now by our special guest and our very good friend Metro Council Member-at-large Steve Glover. Steve, Mayor Cooper when he was before when he was campaigning he said he would be open to everybody and wanted to hear all sorts of ideas when last we talked he wasn’t really open to your ideas. Has he changed in the past several months?
Glover: This question will take about four seconds. No.
Leahy: Yeah. What happened to the guy?
Glover: You’ll have to ask him. I’m still the same person. You’ll have to ask him. You know he sure is, I almost said a bad word. I’m sorry. He sure as heck enjoyed getting our vote in order to get elected. Obviously, we got scammed. And so here we are. The sad part is he really could care less what most anybody has to say quite frankly. So I don’t feel personally discriminated against.
He’s been that way with a lot of folks. It’s unfortunate because I think he’s made some very poor decisions. And I’ll tell him to his face if I ever get that opportunity again that he’s made some very poor decisions. I think what he’s done to our downtown business community is unforgivable. There are still thousands of people who are financially hurting in our city that should not be. When you look at our revenue, here’s the other thing that really irritates me to no end. We had options on this capital spending plan. We could have looked back, and we could have paid maybe 50 percent…(Line disconnects)
Leahy: I’ll just continue on that. We’ll get Steve right back here.
Cunningham: And it’s amazing mayor Cooper actively probably more than any other mayoral candidate that I could remember, actively courted conservative voters.
Leahy: I will listen to you. (Chuckles)
Cunningham: He said I’m a new kind of Democrat. I think that was his appeal. And on the council, he had been and had moments of fiscal sanity.
Leahy: Well he’s a commercial developer. He knows money.
Cunningham: Yes and investment guy. He clearly knows money.
Leahy: He doesn’t care and he doesn’t want to hear from anybody.
Cunnigham: COVID came along and he turned into a dictator.
Leahy: Actually the actual description is a tinpot dictator. (Laughter) We’ve invited them on the show. I don’t know why he isn’t showing up at all to talk about it. I suppose if I call somebody a tinpot dictator, and promise to be polite they might not want to come on the program.
Cunningham: Well, if he’s that thin-skinned, it’s problem. He did court conservative voters. He said I’ll be your fiscal conservative.
Leahy: He’s not at all.
Cunnigham: He absolutely blew it completely.
Leahy: Steve you’re back and we were just singing the praises of our favorite tin-pot dictator Mayor John Cooper.
Cunningham: Steve, is it fair to say that he actively courted conservatives probably more than any other mayoral candidate in quite a while?
Glover: It’s beyond fair. We did a bench together and there were a lot of things that we did. I really thought that we had a good opportunity to work together up until you know all of this began in March. And then when he threw the, and I’ll just call it the bombshell, the 32 percent property tax increase when he did that things started going south.
I never want to speak on behalf of someone else but I’ll say this to you. He felt like it’s his responsibility to worry about everything and I said, what do you think I’d do? I’m elected by the entire city just like you are. And let me just say this Ben. And anybody that doesn’t believe this then they need to go look at the numbers. Had he not had the moderate conservative vote out there, remember I got roughly 38 percent of the vote, roughly 38 percent of the vote in the same election, and he got elected and he beat Briley by what 39, 40 points?
Leahy: All your people voted for him it looks like.
Glover: That’s what I’m saying. And at the end of the day for him to turn his nose on us and literally just walk away from us is unforgivable. It will never happen again I’ll tell you that. If he’s going to run again I will work diligently to make sure that we don’t vote for him because we have to have someone. While we may not be in a majority, we certainly have a strong enough voice that we can have a say in the city and we must demand that we have a say in the city.
Leahy: Steve, we broke a story on Friday and I’d like to get your reaction to it. This community oversight board, which is turning out to be a real travesty passed by the voters 58 percent in 2018, and they have 11 members and an executive director Jill Fitcheard who is their executive director. The 11 members, all seem pretty lefty to me and pretty anti-police. one of them a fellow by the name of Ovid Timothy Hughes who last week resigned suddenly.
And people wonder why Why did he resign suddenly? Our own Corinne Murdock has written several stories about and it turns out Ovid Timothy Hughes appears to be a convicted felon. Convicted in 2008 of mail fraud by the U.S. attorney’s office here. He served apparently a year plus a day in prison. Never revealed that. He was nominated for this by the NAACP of Tennessee.
Apparently the Tennessee state law you have to be a registered voter in that jurisdiction to serve on a community oversight board. He was asked at a committee meeting by David Rosenberg, are you a registered voter? He said yes. Well, we asked the Secretary of State here in Tennessee, and turns out he was removed from the voter rolls in 2008 because of his felony conviction. My question to you is what kind of vetting process is the community oversight board doing?
Glover: Well, apparently none. It’s not something that I supported. And I’ve told the community that I don’t support it because there’s already enough oversight for our police. What’s sad is supposedly these folks aren’t vetted. I feel doubtful that I voted for him in order for him to be on it because normally I will vote for the Moderate and that middle-of-the-road voice.
And that never happens, not this group we’ve got because they don’t want to actually have a fair and balanced version of what’s going on in the city. What I would say is that we probably need to get our act together better which goes without saying. We just need to do our job better and we need to make sure before we put somebody on a commission or a board that in fact they are registered etc.
Leahy: I’ll make a suggestion for consideration. For any nominee who is presenting himself as a candidate for the community oversight board if the city council would require that they make a sworn statement in writing and be sworn in before they testify in their interview before the rules confirmation committee chaired by Dave Rosenberg by the way.
That they make a sworn statement as to whether or not they are registered voters or not. Ovid Timothy Hughes on February fourth, 2020 went before that committee and was asked by Dave Rosenberg, are you a registered voter and said yes. That appears to be an obvious lie. but apparently not subject to perjury charges because he was not sworn in before that committee hearing was heard. What’s your thought on making it a requirement to serve on the board and that submit a sworn statement about your qualifications and you are sworn in before you testify before the rules confirmation committee as to your qualifications.
Glover: I think given the gravity of that particular commissioner board or whatever you want to call it I think that’s an absolute wonderful idea. I’ll have to check it because I’m not an attorney. I’m certainly not a constitutional attorney and I will need to check on that. But that’s a pretty easy ask right there. I’ll go to work on it. Let me see.
Leahy: Well thank you for considering it. I appreciate it. Can I tell you what my prediction is? My prediction is the mayor will not pay any attention to it and that Dave Rosenberg who chairs this committee will not pay any attention to it either. But I’d be delighted to have you come back and tell me otherwise.
Glover: I’m not certain if he’s still the chair of that. I don’t remember who all the chairs are for every committee. They change every year. The bottom line is that I want to get into the police issue on this.
Leahy: Let’s do that in our next segment. We got about three minutes here. Ben has a question for you. Then we’ll come back after the break.
Cunningham: Well, well this may not be enough time for this. Steve, there are so many folks out there that are mad as hell and they want to do something. Well, we’ve only got a minute. What do you say to people who want to run for the council or school board or these local offices? What are they do because so many people are they just need that first step. They just need somebody who’s been there to give them a little bit of direction. And I just wanted you to address that because I get messages every day from people who want to do this. But their threshold of action has to be lowered enough to for them to take action.
Leahy: When we come back with Steve Glover, Metro Council Member-At-Large will talk about the police issues here in Metro Nashville. And then also what should people do who want to run for office.
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