Live from Music Row Thursday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed all-star panelist Roger Simon in studio to comment upon the State of the Union address and America’s love affair with money at the behest of the Chinese Communist Party.
Leahy: We welcome to our microphones because it is Thursday, February 9, 2023. It’s a Thursday at the 7:00 a.m. hour. It means it’s time for my former boss at PJ TV, an Academy Award-nominated screenwriter and great novelist.
He’s got a new book coming out called American Refugee, one of those popular columnists at The Epoch Times. And, of course, all-star panelists here, Mr. Roger Simon. Good morning, Roger.
Simon: I do it on Thursday. It must be Belgium.
Leahy: There was a movie. If it’s Tuesday, This Must be Belgium. Is it Thursday?
Simon: I can’t remember. Anyway, one day or another, it was Belgium.
Leahy: You had a piece at The Epoch Times about your reaction to the State of the Union address. What is that reaction?
Simon: Well, some of it is inevitable. First of all, the state of the union is always boring. Let’s be honest. Really boring.
Leahy: Can I give you some credit? Do you know what is the most fun part of when a speech comes on? You know this. You founded PJ Media. And you know Steven Green, right? He has this great thing called Drunk Blogging.
Simon: Yes.
Leahy: It’s the best way to watch. He drinks, I don’t know, whatever he drinks. And, of course, the comments get riper.
Simon: He makes very good old fashions.
Leahy: Yes.
Simon: I was once at a thing where he made old fashions for everybody that showed us his technique and blah, blah, blah. It was very good.
Leahy: Very good.
Simon: But he’s not really a drunk.
Leahy: I know.
Simon: That’s the good thing about him. It’s not a good thing to be. Anyway, that’s my advice for this morning. But besides the fact that it’s always a boring subject.
Leahy: Always.
Simon: The most important thing in the entire world was deliberately missing from the SOTU. And it was the five-letter word China. (Chuckles)
Leahy: Yes.
Simon: Somehow or another, our esteemed president overlooked it. And the reason is very obvious. China has made a fool of him and also has bought him and then most recently flew a giant balloon all over the United States, and he didn’t do a damn thing about it. And we don’t know, and we’ll probably never know because we are lied to by our intelligence agencies at all times. What exactly did the Chinese learn from their experience?
Leahy: We’ll never know. And I think his speech dragged on for the longest hour and a half of my life. And I think what, he had maybe 60 seconds of that on China, or not even that.
Simon: Not even that.
Leahy: It was like 30 seconds.
Simon: Right. He had to have something because people like me and you and anybody who was slightly awake would have noticed China is not only the elephant in the room. They own parts of Tennessee, not to mention the rest of the United States.
Leahy: Not only are they flying over our military bases and our air bases, but they’re also buying farmland right next to it.
Simon: Yes. All over the place, though. In Montana, around those bases, but all over. They’re buying it here.
Leahy: Yes. I’m reminded when I look at this. What was it that Nikita Khrushchev said? We will bury you, and you’ll sell us the rope to hang yourselves. Or something like that?
Simon: Something like that. Then he banged his shoe. But I’m afraid he may have been right. This is the sad truth. We better do something about it. One thing is to kick this guy out of the White House because the term that is used for this is elite capture.
If the audience has heard this term, it’s an interesting term because that’s what the Chinese do. They buy our scientists, professors, politicians, and anybody they can because they know the great weakness of Americans I hate to say this, is that we like money.
Leahy: Out for the almighty dollar. Well, that’s capitalism.
Simon: It’s capitalism. But I think we’re a little bit too hungry for it sometimes. The Chinese have recognized this, and they take advantage.
Leahy: Did you know they’re buying Private K-12 military schools around the country? Did you see that? Because they want to sort of, get these kids in junior ROTC and then send them to West Point and turn them into, you know, embedded Chicom operatives within our military.
Simon: General Milley is that way already.
Leahy: You know why. Because he went to Princeton. (Laughter)
Simon: Not Dartmouth or Harvard.
Leahy: That’s right.
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Live from Music Row Thursday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed all-star panelist Clint Brewer in studio to weigh in on the new book by Peter Schweizer, Red Handed and how many of politicans on both sides of the isle are connected monetarily with the Chinese state.
Leahy: You know, Clint, every time you’re on, I get a lot of texts and people like the interaction.
Brewer: Good.
Leahy: Some don’t agree with you, though.
Brewer: That’s okay. I probably don’t agree with them.
Leahy: But this is the reason you’re here, because we unlike, I don’t know, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, like the free and fair exchange of ideas.
Brewer: The delta, the difference between how we view things is like a 20, 30 percent.
Leahy: 10 percent maybe, but depends on the issue.
Brewer: It depends on the topic.
Leahy: Yeah. But they like it when we disagree. Okay.
Brewer: Let’s find some stuff to disagree about before the hour is up.
Leahy: (Chuckles) Alright, Clint Brewer. Now this is something I don’t know if we’ll disagree on this, but let us present the information. You know, at The Star News Network, The Tennessee Star and all of our 10 state outlets, soon to be 15, then to be 25 by the end of the year, if all goes well.
We are moving towards not just radio, but we are a multimedia operation doing video. And we have brought on board two nationally recognized journalists.
Neil W. McCabe, who was my colleague at Breitbart. We worked with Pat Cadell, by the way on doing some of the polling in 2016.
And then Dr. Susan Berry, an education expert, has joined us. But Neil spent three years at One America News. And so we are taking him and he is going out and talking to the newsmakers in all our states and getting exclusive stories.
Now, the big, big story out there right now has to do with the expose that the journalist Peter Schweizer put together on his new book. I think it was number one at Amazon. Red Handed. How American and Elites Get Rich Helping China Win.
So Neil McCabe went down, we flew him down to Tallahassee, Florida, where Schweizer has his offices. And we got a 90 minutes exclusive interview. And we have a series of clips that you can go to The Tennessee Star and watch.
And the stories are there, the one that we found most interesting and the one we’re going to talk about right now and you’ll hear this is a long clip.
It’s about two minutes, but we’re going to play it and we’ll like to get your reaction to it. The headline: Mitch McConnell Linked to Chinese Communist Party Through Wife’s Family.
(McCabe clip plays)
In his new book Red Handed investigative journalist Peter Schweizer documents how the Senate’s top Republican, Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell, is tied through his wife to the top leadership of the Chinese Communist Party.
He also told The Star News Network that his wife, Elaine Chao, as Transportation Secretary, used her official position to help the shipping business of her father, James Chao.
(Schweizer clip plays)
So when Mitch McConnell married Elaine Chao, he married into a family that had very substantial connections on mainland China with the Chinese Communist Party. James Chao, who was Elaine’s father. That would be Senator Mitch McConnell’s father in law grew up with Zhang Zi min, who was the Premier of China in the 1990s.
(McCabe clip plays)
Schweizer said McConnell, in addition to receiving millions of dollars in political contributions from members of the Chao family, also received a massive gift from his billionaire father in law.
(Schweizer clip plays)
When it comes to Mitch McConnell, it’s pretty clear his financial fortunes are fused with those of the Chao family. In fact, James Chao gave him a gift more than a decade ago of between $5 and $25 million. And that basically quadrupled his net worth overnight.
And when Elaine Chao became the Transportation Secretary, when she took official delegations as Transportation Secretary to China, she planned to and wanted to bring her sister and her father along on those trips. So you have this fusing of the Chao family and Mitch McConnell to the Chinese state.
And it creates a circumstance where if Mitch McConnell were to do something that Beijing did not like, they could literally destroy the business overnight.
(McCabe clip plays)
Peter Schweizer’s research into the McConnell Chao family business and their relationship with the Chinese Communist Party begged the question that if McConnell has to choose between the fortunes of the American people or the billions at stake in his own family fortune, who would he choose? Reporting for The Star News Network this is Neil W. McCabe.
Leahy: That’s original reporting from our own Neil W. McCabe, our national political editor for The Tennessee Star and The Star News Network. Clint, what’s your reaction to that?
Brewer: These aren’t allegations. They are largely fact. It’s been out there about McConnell and his wife since about 2017, and it’s evolved. Here’s what I’d say, a couple of things. One, I’ve said it on the show many times.
America’s single biggest overriding issue pervading all aspects of the economy, politics, society is our ongoing, I call it, relationship with China.
I don’t think we have had a requisite amount of accountability for COVID-19 from China. I think that up until the Trump administration, our trade policy was massively imbalanced with China.
I think that we have not economically and politically drawn a line in the sand with them. And I think books like this kind of create a compendium of information for readers that can allow them to see the big picture.
If you look at the cover of the book, President Biden is on the cover of the book. But I think it’s important to note that leaders on both sides of the aisle have business relationships with China through their families.
I think it’s important to note that America’s business elite have business relationships with China. They have investments there. General Motors, which has a plant in Tennessee, also has a plant in China.
So we are very cross-pollinated economically with China as country. And I think information like this is something that’s vital for the American people to have.
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Live from Music Row Thursday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed the founder of Pajamas Media and all-star panelist Roger Simon to the studio to explain his practice of a Chinese movement in response to the communist government called Falun Gong.
Leahy: We are delighted to welcome in studio our good friend, former boss at PJTV, editor-at-large for The Epoch Times, Academy Award-nominated screenwriter Roger Simon. Good morning, Roger.
Simon: Good morning, Michael. Every time you mention that I was your former voice, I think, well, maybe I should fire you right now and take over the show.
Leahy: (Laughter) There probably are some people in America who would agree with that decision, Roger.
Simon: I don’t think that. (Laughter) I’m not that good at getting up that early.
Leahy: Roger, you are a native of New York City.
Simon: Absolutely. New Yorkino as we used to say. I always thought as a little kid or even a 10-year-old kid who knew enough about The New Yorker you know that New Yorker cartoon, which shows New York the map of the world according to New York.
Leahy: I remember that.
Simon: Yeah. A lot of people remember it. It was a great cover.
Leahy: A great cover. A classic.
Simon: A classic. Definitely. That’s how they used to do things like that at The New Yorker but it’s now as dead as New York. But they used to do this cartoon of how New York was the great giant thing and then way out in the distance with California and then the rest of the country.
So growing up there, that’s the way I thought it was always going to be. And I was going to die in New York. But here I am in my 70s in Nashville, Tennessee.
Leahy: And delighted to be here I might add.
Simon: I’m pleased to be here, although I have my questions about the government of Tennessee. But compared to New York, it’s Athens.
Leahy: Well, of course, you know, Roger, Nashville has been for over a century, the Athens of the South.
Simon: Oh, yes, I know.
Leahy: We have a Parthenon there.
Simon: I know that because, you know, every Sunday I’m out there by the Parthenon doing Falun Gong exercises.
Leahy: You told me about that. I called you one Sunday and you said I’m in the middle of Falun Gong. (Simon laughs)
Simon: Well, you know, I’m not a joiner of anything. I wouldn’t even join my own club.
Leahy: The old Groucho Marx saying, I’d never joined a club that would have me as a member.
Simon: The only wisdom in this country is always said by Groucho Marx.
Leahy: Or H. L. Mencken. Those two.
Simon: Those two. After that, it’s over. Because The Epoch Times has a number of people that are interested in Falun Gong and its founding. I figured since I’m an editor there that would I learn something about it and do the exercises.
Leahy: Tell our listeners what Falun Gong is and why it matters.
Simon: Yeah, it’s very interesting because in the 1990s, Falun Gong grew up in China in opposition to the government there. That is a little bit of a problem. As the listers know, you can go to jail for your ideas if you don’t like the government of China.
Leahy: It’s a movement. A recent movement in China.
Simon: But 100 million people are more joined it very quickly.
Leahy: What are the tenants of Falun Gong?
Simon: It’s kind of a modern version of Buddhism and Taoism. So it’s ancient Chinese wisdom that has a lot to say for itself. Everybody’s sort of interested in Buddhism because it’s more of a philosophy than a religion.
Leahy: Yeah, exactly. That’s exactly right.
Simon: My two-word definition of Buddhism is cool out. (Laughter) And I think we could all do that. (Chuckles) Literally millions and millions of people joined the Falun Gong very quickly in opposition to the wretched Communist government of China and the Communist overlords got very annoyed.
Needless to say, annoyed in their inevitable Tiennamen Square “run over your adversaries” way. And they did a lot of things to the Falun Gong including forced organ transplant.
Leahy: Yikes! This is like a very bad dystopian science fiction novel. Dystopian, by the way, word of the day is a future world that is dark and evil and bad. The opposite of utopia.
Simon: Like California today. (Laughter)
Leahy: You are on today, Roger. That is very good. Anyway, many of the Falun Gong fled to the USA because they didn’t like that forced organ transplant.
Leahy: Imagine that! They are so selfish.
Simon: People have a line. If they were so Buddhist they should have cooled out about it.
Leahy: There is some exercise involved. Physical.
Simon: There are some exercises involved. I’m a complete neophyte in it resembles in some ways Tai chi. But they say oh no. It’s not Tai chi.
Leahy: It looks like Tai Chi but it’s not.
Simon: You got it.
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Live from Music Row Wednesday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael to the studio to discuss the power of the administrative estate through the alignment of political appointees and bureaucrats.
(Congressman Scott Perry clips plays)
Leahy: That’s Florida Republican Congressman Scott Perry talking about the Biden agenda as it goes to infrastructure. Crom, you have more insights on that agenda.
Carmichael: The agenda and infrastructure. The hardest part for the Republicans, if they vote in favor of a scaled-down infrastructure bill, is knowing what’s actually in the final bill. Because the way that Washington works sometimes is, like Pelosi, said about Obamacare. We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.
And she literally meant that. She didn’t care what was in it. She knew some of the things that were in it, but she wasn’t going to extol the virtue of some of those things because they were terrible. And Obamacare was an abject failure.
But I want to get back, Michael, to what we were talking about earlier. Let me just say this. ESG equals CCP. ESG equals CCP. Communist Party of China equals ESG. Here’s how this works. You’ve got this guy from BlackRock who goes around with all this money that he has under management, telling these CEOs what they have to do.
But behind him, he has the giant stick of the federal government, the SEC. And in the case of banks, the FDIC. He is telling banks what they must do or the FDIC comes down on the banks.
Leahy: Well Dan Grant in here yesterday, he’s with 2nd Vote Advisers to push back on Larry Fink’s BlackRock told us all the major banks, all the big banks, are really leftists promoting this agenda.
Carmichael: And my response to that is that might be true, but they have no choice under this administration. They have no choice. If you are the head of a major bank and you defy the authorities in Washington, what happens to you?
Leahy: You are no longer the head of that major bank.
Carmichael: And then the person who takes that position as head of the bank will then do will then bend the knee. Whoever is in that position will bend the knee.
Leahy: I might quibble with you a little bit on this. The Biden administration went into office on January 20, 2021. The left-leaning nature of big banks has been around for years before that.
Carmichael: I’m not questioning whether or not the administrative state was doing under Trump things that Trump didn’t want. I’m not questioning that at all. In fact, in Washington, as we’ve said, 94 percent voted Democrat. 94 percent. Do you think that those people care who is the President United States when they’re protected by civil service laws?
Leahy: So the argument is that even though the previous President would not have supported these things, the administrative state was able to influence these large banks in ways that they kept doing what they were doing under Obama.
Carmichael: Yeah. They kept doing exactly the same thing. And so the question becomes when a person becomes President, he or she as a matter of law, require that the people who work for the administration or carry out the policies of the administration or lose their job if they don’t?
And what I’m saying is that’s an open question. Political appointees can be fired, but that represents less than one-tenth of one percent of the people in Washington, D.C. For every political appointee, there are 1,000 bureaucrats.
Leahy: There’s one little twist on that, which is it seems to me under the Biden Mal-administration, my words, not yours, that the political appointees and the deep state bureaucrats are aligned in the ways that they weren’t aligned under Trump.
Carmichael: Yes. What I’m saying is that under Trump, the bureaucrats simply ignored what the political appointee said. Now, on the other hand, the political appointees are in line with the bureaucrat.
Leahy: And aren’t they a little more brazen and aggressive?
Carmichael: Of course. So that’s what I’m saying. That’s why publicly traded companies are holding these shaming sessions. They’re holding them. They are actually happening. And then the military, Austin.
You didn’t hear there weren’t any congressional hearings. There wasn’t anything. He just sent out a dictate that says that the code of Military Justice, when it comes to cases of sexual harassment will no longer be in the military.
They’re being put in the civilian arena. So, people who won’t be judged by their military higher-ups, they’ll be judged by the Justice Department.
Leahy: When we hear all this Crom, you know, our listeners are going to say, how can we survive the next three and a half years as a constitutional Republic?
Carmichael: Well, for me, the question is not how do we survive the next three and a half years? It really isn’t. The question is, can this ship be turned around, even if you control the presidency, the House, and the Senate? Can you do that? Because I do think in the midterms I do think that we’ll retake at least the House.
Leahy: Yeah, I agree with that.
Carmichael: And I think there’s a good chance that we will win the Senate. But a lot of what’s going on right now in Washington is trying to position Democrats for the next election. Krysten Sinema has written an article or a column in The Washington Post about how strongly she feels about the filibuster.
She’s up for reelection in 2024. She knows that’s going to be a very tough election because she’ll be running as a Democrat against when the Republican for the presidency could be Trump or could be a Trumpian.
Leahy: Like a DeSantis would be the betting odds right now.
Carmichael: And she also recognizes that the voting rules in Maricopa County will be different in 2020.
Leahy: The Arizona state legislature has done a fine job in improving the election.
Carmichael: It has eliminated much of the cheating. So she recognizes that. So she is trying to position herself, even though she doesn’t believe anything she’s writing.
Leahy: By the way. We’re launching tomorrow, The Arizona Sun Times.
Carmichael: Oh good.
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Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael to the studio to discuss Taiwan’s historical progress versus China in the 80s and the capitulation of Pope Francis.
Leahy: Crom, lots of stuff going on. What else is on your agenda? By the way, it is the first day of summer. And it felt like the first day of summer. I got to drive in this morning at 4:25 in the morning, 80 degrees out.
Carmichael: Well, it felt like the first day of summer a couple of weeks ago when I got up close to 100 degrees. So that happens this time of year?
Leahy: Yes. Tennessee. Yeah, that’s right.
Carmichael: There are three or four articles all about China that I find that I find very interesting. But there is one that isn’t explicitly about China and it really helps understand some of what’s going on in terms of the foreign policy.
Leahy: Now Crom, I will tell you you have piqued my curiosity. I like the way you set that up. Well, now I’m thinking this is clever Crom seeing the influence China somewhere, and I’m sure it’s there. I wonder where you seeing it.
Carmichael: Here’s a headline. So anybody who read this headline could see it. This is in the business section of The Wall Street Journal. The World Relies On One Chip Maker in Taiwan, Leaving Everyone Vulnerable.
So that gives us an idea that one of the reasons why China is so insistent that they take over Taiwan. And we now know what China will do once they take over an area even if they promise to do something different because of what they did in Hong Kong.
Leahy: They promised one thing, and they did exactly the opposite.
Carmichael: They did not leave the people in Hong Kong free. They’re now under the subjugation of the Communist Chinese Party, just like everybody else.
Leahy: Let me just stop for a moment on that. When the United Kingdom signed the agreement to give Hong Kong back because their 99-year lease expired everybody knew this would happen.
Carmichael: I would assume so. But I’m not sure what the alternative was, because as you point out, there was a 99-year deal. And the 99-year deal was going to be coming up soon.
And I don’t think the Communist Party of China was in any mood at all to extend the terms of the deal, as they had been before. So it’s kind of like if your lease is running out in a building and you don’t have a right to renew, guess what?
Leahy: You’re out.
Carmichael: You’re either out of are you going to agree to the landlords’ terms. Now you have a choice of getting out. In the case of Taiwan, though, that’s not the case.
Leahy: That’s right. In the case of Taiwan, you had Chiang Kai-shek and a number of Chinese who fled the Communist Party back in the late 40s to the island of Taiwan which had virtually nothing on it. And Taiwan is now one of the wealthiest per-capita communities.
Leahy: It is booming from what I hear.
Carmichael: In the world. It’s only been there for 70 years.
Leahy: I guess 20 some odd million people live on the island, but it is a hub of entrepreneurial activities. And it’s a garden spot, I hear.
Carmichael: Well, I was in Taiwan quite some time ago.
Leahy: You were? What was it like?
Carmichael: Well, this is back in the late 80s and so it’s not fair. We were in China at the same time. And Taiwan was a bustling community and a huge city with lots of cars and lots of beautiful buildings.
In other words, it was a first-world country whereas in China at the time, we were one of the very, very, very few cars on the streets. And when we were on the streets, the driver would drive at about 10 to 15 miles an hour and beep his horn like a heartbeat because there were tens of thousands of bicycles.
And the bicycles had to just kind of move out of the way for the car to pass and move right back in the path. It was just quite extraordinary to see that. But China was very, very poor in the late 80s?
The tallest building in Shanghai was 40 stories and shared a hotel. And now Shanghai is a huge metropolis, just a huge, bustling city. But Taiwan was that before. And Taiwan is also a very, very technologically advanced society.
So there’s lots of technology that’s been developed. Apple phones and a lot of Apple equipment are made in Taiwan. But this one chipmaker is the largest chipmaker in the world by far and many of the chips that they make are very sophisticated.
And so this actually has national security implications in regard to that. What’s also interesting in regard to China is the House Republicans in Washington are targeting the Chinese Communist Party for covering up the origins of the Coronavirus and have introduced legislation to allow people to sue China.
The Democrats are completely opposed to that. So we now kind of see which side the Democrat party is on.
Leahy: They’re on the side of the Chinese Communist Party.
Carmichael: Yes. That’s really quite interesting. Apparently, nobody’s asked Anthony Fauci that question. If they have I’ve not seen it. So if one of our listeners has actually seen Anthony Fauci opine on whether or not the Communist Chinese Party should be held responsible now that he’s admitted that the virus likely came from the lab.
But he’s not admitting that very hard. And then there’s another interesting story where Pope Francis did something that no Pope has done in centuries and that is he capitulated to the Communist Chinese Party. The Communist Chinese Party gets to pick the priests.
Leahy: Yeah, that doesn’t happen. It’s never happened anywhere that I know of in the Catholic Church.
Carmichael: This is something that he agreed to. So now a Communist priest, somehow those two words just don’t seem to go together.
Leahy: It’s an oxymoron.
Carmichael: Yeah. Thank you. You can look that word up.
Leahy: It’s pernicious.
Carmichael: Pernicious. (Laughter) Very good. And then the last little item here is this in Yahoo. News of all places. And the headline is ominous.
Leahy: Not pernicous but ominous.
Carmichael: The U.S.-China relationship going down the path of a great confrontation, analyst says. I’ve read the story and I believe it’s true.
Leahy: Well, when you’re weak, the strong party will take advantage.
Carmichael: Yes.
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