National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd on Southern Border: ‘If the Outrage Exists, Then a Change Can Happen’

National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd on Southern Border: ‘If the Outrage Exists, Then a Change Can Happen’

 

Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed special guest Brandon Judd, President of the National Border Patrol Council to the newsmakers line to discuss the current surge of Haitians under the Del Rio International Bridge and how it is up to the people educate themselves to make a change to the Biden administration’s border policies.

Leahy: We are joined on our newsmaker line right now by Brandon Judd, the President of the National Border Patrol Council. Brandon, apparently there are reports that there are more than 10,000 Haitians are under the Del Rio International Bridge on the southwestern border of Texas with Mexico. How do they get there and what’s happening with them?

Judd: I spent all day yesterday, and I’ll spend all day today down under the bridge. And what we saw is at the height, it was 14,870, some odd people that we had under the bridge. Now, these people were not in custody.

And as long as they didn’t try to further their entrance into the United States, they were able to stay under the bridge until we can take them into custody, transport them, process them, and then determine what’s going to happen with them from there.

The idea and these stories that are coming out by The Washington Post, by The New York Times, by all of these outlets are saying these people are going to be deported. That’s just not true.

Only a quarter of these individuals are going to be amenable to Title 42 and are going to be expelled because the vast majority of them are family units. And we know the Biden administration doesn’t expel family units from the United States.

The vast majority of these individuals crossed our borders illegally, they violated our laws, and they’re ultimately going to be rewarded for violating our laws.

And as long as we do that, we create this magnet that draws all of these people to come here to the United States illegally. And it’s completely and totally surreal. It’s a situation that we’ve never seen before.

And if you are able to get down there personally, what you’re going to see is that it seriously appears to be like a war zone. It’s crazy what is taking place right now.

Leahy: How does it happen? I mean, how do 14,000 Haitians get from Haiti to a bridge under the bridge of the Del Rio International Bridge on the southwestern border of Texas and Mexico? How does that happen?

Judd: Oh, they walk for the most part.

Leahy: They don’t walk from Haiti. That’s an island.

Judd: The cartels facilitate it. What’s very interesting about this is the majority of them are not coming from Haiti. The majority of them are coming from Chile or Brazil. Back in 2010, during all of the disasters that were taking place in Haiti, a lot of these people left and went to South America for economic reprieve.

And Brazil and Chile excepted these people in. Now that the pandemic has hit those two countries hard, and there’s been a huge economic downturn, these people are leaving those two countries and they’re coming to the United States.

They didn’t have to take boats up to where we’re at. They were able to come straight up through South America and Central America, up to the United States and the cartels, they facilitated this.

The cartels were able to get them up. And this is what’s amazing about what’s taken place is the cartels understand that all they have to do is cross really large groups. We’ve never seen anything like this before, but they know that all they have to do is cross really large groups then the border patrol will have to deploy the resources to that area.

And when we deploy our resources to that area, we create all of these artificial gaps in our coverage along the border. And when we do that, they’re able to cross their higher-value products such as criminal aliens and drugs into the United States.

It’s completely and totally crazy that we continue to operate the way that we do because we’ve conceded control of law enforcement operations to criminal cartels.

Leahy: Is this intentional on the part of the Biden maladministration?

Judd: That would be speculation on my part. If you were to ask me, I don’t have evidence of it, but, yeah, I believe it is. I believe it is. But, again, that speculations. That’s just my opinion. I don’t have any evidence of it. But I do believe it is.

Leahy: I don’t have evidence, but I have logic. I can’t see any other way this would happen unless this were intentional on part of a Biden maladministration.

Judd: When you look at the Biden administration bringing back the catch and release magnet, that then-President Trump was able to get rid of, we dropped to a 45 year low in illegal immigration.

The Biden administration almost from day one, when they came into office,  reintroduced that magnet. And that’s why we have 200,000 apprehensions two months running. We’re expecting to see those apprehensions to be over 200,000 again in the month of September.

So, yeah, it’s crazy what’s going on. And until the people recognize that the policies of this administration that it’s not just border security.

It’s everything. Look at the economy right now. Look at the jobs market. Look at Afghanistan. Everything that’s happening in this country, these policies are horrible. And until the country stands up and recognizes this, he’s not going to change.

He’s just not going to make any changes as it pertains to the border. He’s not going to make any changes as it pertains to this very hard leftist movement and the defund, the police, and everything that comes with the negatives of a very liberal government.

Leahy: What does this do to the morale of the National Border Patrol agents out there?

Judd: All of the agents were all completely defeated. When we put on that uniform, we want to go out and we want to do the best job that we can for the American public. Our desire is to protect the American public.

Our desire is to be able to enforce the laws properly so that the public is safe. And when we see what’s going on, we basically become caretakers. We become babysitters if you will. And that’s not what we signed up to do.

We signed up to be able to go after the criminal organizations, the criminality that exists on the border. We’re looking at it. We know that all we’re doing is reporting to work to be babysitters caretakers, and prison guards, if you will. And that’s not what we’re supposed to be. Now we’re all defeated.

Leahy: Well, when you say defeated. Is it temporary? Is it permanent? Is there hope? What do the Border Patrol agents want to have happen?

Judd: There’s always hope. If we can get back to the mission that we originally signed up to do, that morale is going to jump right back up. But until that time when we say there’s always hope, there’s hope that the public is going to put enough pressure on this administration to do the right thing.

If that doesn’t happen, the morale is going to stay in the tanks. Now, the one thing, even with the moral being, what it is, I’m so proud of the agents that we have. I’m so proud of everybody that goes out there day in and day out.

We’re still going to do the job. We’re going to go out there and we’re going to do the best that we possibly can. We just don’t feel good about it right now.

Leahy: Well, that makes perfect sense. I mean, you’ve got three and a half more years of the Biden maladministration. Is there anything or anyone in the Biden maladministration, my words, not yours, that you trust? Or that wants to actually implement the law?

Judd: (Sighs) That I know of? No. If you look at DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, anytime that you change administrations, they’re able to come in and they’re able to appoint political appointees in very high-level positions.

The leader of the Department of Homeland Security is a political appointee. The leader of Customs and Border Protection is a political appointee. And the leader of the Border Patrol is not a political appointee.

The Border Patrol falls under CBP, Customs, and Border Protection. Customs and Border Protections fall under DHS. And even though the leader of the Border Patrol isn’t a political appointee, that person must do what those political appointees want them to do.

Otherwise, they can be removed from that position. They can’t be fired, but they can be removed from that position and just reassigned somewhere else. The political appointees will do exactly what the administration tells them to do.

If the Biden administration knows that the public is upset with what is going on, then you can see a change in the stances in the operations and the leaders of the agencies. They will fall in line with that.

There has to be enough public outrage. And if there is, then we will see changes. But anytime that you have The Washington Post, The New York Times sugar coating and telling half-truths, then you’re just not going to get the outrage that we need for the public to let him know that they want change.

And that’s why we have to look at both sides. You have to not just listen to those left-leaning outlets. You have to seek out the truth when you find the truth. If the outrage exists, then a change can happen.

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Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd: ‘We’ve Created Sanctuary Cities Throughout the Entire United States’

Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd: ‘We’ve Created Sanctuary Cities Throughout the Entire United States’

 

Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed special guest Brandon Judd, President of the National Border Patrol Council to the newsmakers line to discuss the man-made crisis at America’s Southern border.

Leahy: We are delighted to have on our newsmaker line, Brandon Judd, the President of the National Border Patrol Council which represents all of the folks that are there and our Border Patrol agents on the border. Welcome, Brandon. Thanks for joining us.

Judd: Always good to be with you. Thank you.

Leahy: Well, I know you’re just waiting breathlessly for Vice President Kamala Harris to go down to the border and take a look at this. It’s been how many days? It’s been 80 days now since she’s been charged with doing this by the President and have you seen her yet?

Judd: I’m holding my breath, and I think I’m going to die first. (Leahy laughs) 

Leahy: How do your members look at this kind of silliness from the Biden Harris administration? This kind of disdain for the job you do. How do you do your job every day in that environment?

Judd: It becomes very difficult. every time we put on a uniform and we go out and we try to do our job we know that we just don’t have an administration behind us that cares about the American public and that cares that we’re able to secure the border.

Vice President Harris, the other day, said that she’s an advocate for illegal aliens. She’s advocating for lawlessness. How can you put on a uniform and go out to try to do the job when you know that the administration is actively trying to support those people that you’re trying to keep out of the country to protect the American citizen?

Leahy: That’s a very interesting point. It’s almost like Alison in Wonderland kind of stuff, right? This is like the counter to logic, counter to what they’re supposed to be doing. To me, I don’t know.

I hear the Vice President say something like that and I think is this person trying to subvert the immigration laws of the United States?

Judd: It certainly looks that way when you consider that in the first five months of this administration, nearly 500,000 illegal immigrants have been allowed to get into the United States.

It’s crazy when you consider that we’ve had nearly 200,000 people that have been able to cross the border illegally and evade apprehension. Those are what we call got aways. Nearly 200,000 people have been able to get away.

And then on top of that, nearly 300,000 people have been released under the catch and release program. That’s 500,000 people in five months that have been added to the 11,000,000 illegal alien population that’s already here in the United States. That’s crazy! In five months, think about what’s going to happen over four years.

Leahy: I’m going to tell you how I see this, and I’d just like to get your reaction to it. We have immigration laws on the books, and the President and the Vice President are charged with enforcing those immigration laws.

To me, it looks like they are actually trying to subvert those laws. When a President and Vice President look to subvert those laws, it seems to me that that is a high crime and misdemeanor, and it’s an impeachable offense. That’s what it looks like to me.

Judd: As a federal employee, I can’t comment on that. I just can’t go there. But what I can tell you is that the immigration laws just are not being enforced the way Congress intended them to be enforced.

And when you consider that both Vice President Harris and President Biden, were both in Congress and they both helped pass the laws that we’re currently supposed to enforce it’s insane to think that they’re using what’s called prosecutorial discretion to create the current disaster that we have on the border.

When you consider that they’ve said that ICE can only arrest and deport people that have committed serious felonies, they’ve basically made every single city in the United States a sanctuary city.

If a local police department pulls somebody over for drunk driving and they’re in the United States illegally, and they call ICE, well, drunk driving isn’t one of those crimes that ICE can then go take them into custody, then they’re going to then have to release them.

That’s an illegal alien that we knew was in the country that ICE can’t go pick up. In essence, we’ve created sanctuary cities throughout the entire United States through what’s called prosecutorial discretion.  

Leahy: So where does our country go on these issues?

Judd: I mean, we have to look at and we have to say, let’s go to the polls. We have to. If we don’t go to the polls, then we’re going to continue to see what’s currently happening. We have to be willing to look at and elect those people that care more about the citizens of the United States than they do about the citizens outside of the United States.

We elect people to look out for our interests, not the interests of people that are not here in this country or aren’t citizens of this country.

Leahy: Governor Greg Abbott of Texas announced over the weekend his intent to build a wall and have the state build a wall and to arrest any illegal aliens that they find. What do you make of that?

Judd: I’m grateful that we have governors that are willing to step up. We have to look at what’s been going on when border patrol’s resources are being pulled out of the field because we’re being overwhelmed by what we call getaways, those people that cross the border and basically wave their hands in the air, say, here I am, I’m going to claim asylum.

What happens is we pull so much of our resources out of the field to process those individuals that we create these artificial gaps that criminal cartels can then cross their higher-value products.

Whether that’s drugs, whether that’s criminal aliens, whether that’s aliens from special interest countries, it creates these gaps. Governor Abbott has sent DPS down to the border to help fill those gaps, and they’ve done a phenomenal job.

So he’s just looking at more solutions to try to get this crisis under control there in Texas. I wish other governors would step up to the plate and do the same thing that he’s doing.

Leahy: You anticipated my next question when you say, other governors. There are four states that border the Mexican border, going East to West. Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California.

Greg Abbott is a Republican. I think the New Mexico governor is a Democrat. Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, Republican. California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat. Compare and contrast, those four governors and their policies towards the border.

Judd: So the two Arizona governors, Governor Ducey in Arizona, that’s my home state. And then, of course, Governor Abbott in Texas, they’ve both been willing to acknowledge that this is, in fact, a crisis.

They’ve both been out there saying this is a complete and total disaster. This is a man-made disaster. This could have been controlled, but this administration came in and reversed several policies that were working programs that got the border under control.

And they’ve done more obviously, than the Democrats governors in New Mexico and California. Governor Abbott has done more than Ducey. But Ducey has the resources that he has. He’s called up the Arizona National Guard.

He sent them to the border. So they are doing something. This is a federal government problem. And they just don’t have the necessary resources. The federal government, they do have the resources. They’re just not doing anything.

Leahy: And again, how many members are in the National Border Patrol Council? 

Judd: 12,500 Border Patrol agents are members of the National Border Patrol Council. 

Leahy: My cousin worked I think it was in Nogales, Arizona as a Border Patrol agent. And he’s retired now. I came from way upstate New York, and a lot of our folks worked as Border Patrol agents on the New York-Quebec border.

That’s kind of where they got started. And that was his background. And I’m telling you, he felt that this was a very, very difficult job. He retired about five years ago. So has a job gotten better or worse in the past five years or particularly the past five months? Let’s go with that.

Judd: It’s more difficult when you have a President that supports you. Under the Trump administration, the job was more difficult, but it was more fulfilling because we knew that we were doing a good job.

 Under this administration, this job is easy because they don’t let her do anything. But it’s not fulfilling. We want to protect the American public and this administration is not letting us do it.

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National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd on Southern Border: ‘If the Outrage Exists, Then a Change Can Happen’

National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd Puts the Border Crisis in Context and Suggests How to Fix It

 

Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. –  host Leahy welcomed special guest Brandon Judd, President of the National Border Patrol to the show to talk about the crisis at the border and what the Biden administration can do to fix it.

Leahy: We are joined on our newsmaker line by Brandon Judd who is the president of the national border patrol Council. This is a labor union set up back in 1967. It represents eight border agencies and support staff on the United States border patrol. 18,000 members. They endorsed Donald Trump in 2016 and in 2020. Brandon, according to Jen Psaki the press secretary for Joe Biden, there’s a challenge at the border. But not a crisis. Do you agree or disagree?

Judd: Oh, you have to look at it historically speaking. You have to put it in context. We have dealt with these numbers on different occasions. When I joined the border patrol and was patrolling the border back in 1997 we were dealing with numbers that that were a little bit bigger than what we’re currently dealing with.

Now, then you go to 2014, 2019 it’s definitely a crisis at this point. And the way I define a crisis, again when I patrol the border if I don’t have the resources to deal with what is commonly crossing the border illegally, it is a crisis if our resources are being overwhelmed and if we have to pull agents off the line and put them in processing.

Or we have to put agents off the line and we have to be in the holding cells because we just have too many people that we’re holding then we’re in a crisis. And we are there. We don’t have the resources that we need to do the job that we need to do to protect the American public, to protect the border. So absolutely were in a crisis.

Leahy: How any illegal aliens are crossing the border like every day since Joe Biden became president of the United States?

Judd: So in February, we had over 100,000 apprehensions. That’s just what we apprehended. You have to remember there’s an awful lot of people that cross the border illegally that get away, especially when our resources are in fact overwhelmed. If you look in the Tucson sector and that’s where I work if you look in the Tucson sector in the last five and a half months we’ve had 40,000 people that have gotten away that we were able to detect but that we were not able to apprehend. So again, I mean where we’re headed right now, we are on pace in this calendar year to apprehend more people than we’ve ever apprehended in the history of the border patrol.

Carmichael: When you apprehend them, what happens to them?

Judds: (Chuckles) That’s the that’s the problem and that’s why so many people are crossing right now. because the Biden Administration has changed Title 42 how we apply Title 42 and because they got rid of the migrant section protocols what we’ve done is we’ve effectively gone back to the catch and release program.

We reintroduced the magnet that the last administration was able to do away with that. And that magnet is what draws people here. And that is catch and release. if people know that they can cross the border illegally just to be released into the United States, Of course, they’re going to cross the border. There are no consequences for violating our laws and that’s what we’re seeing today.

Carmichael: From a practical standpoint. What’s the difference between someone who is apprehended in someone who is not apprehended?  don’t they both end up in the u.s?

Judd: There’s there’s very little difference. the only difference is that we know that you’re here in the United States. If you don’t show up to your court appearances, we know we have fingerprints. We have that different data. That’s the only difference. But ultimately you’re in the United States and the chances that you’re going to be deported are slim to none.

Carmichael: So what you’re saying is in February there were 100,000 apprehensions and maybe 30,000 who were not apprehended? Is that a reasonable guess?

Judd: So the ones that were not apprehend? Yeah, that would be my would have to look at the stats nationwide on the border. But yeah, that’s absolutely reasonable.

Leahy: Brandon, let me ask you this and this is just from afar. I’m not an expert on this. We just write about it at the Tennessee Star. But it looks to me like the Biden administration actually wants to encourage illegal entry into the United States by illegal aliens. Do I have that right or wrong or what’s the reality of it?

Judd: So I’m not going to go as far as saying that they want to encourage. But what I can say and what I’m very very confident in saying is that the Biden administration is pandering to the hard left. And what’s very interesting about that is President Biden was able then-candidate Biden was able to defeat Bernie Sanders because the vast majority of the Democratic caucus did not want to go far left and they wanted him to stay in the middle.

Yet since he’s been president he has gone extreme left in an awful lot of areas. But let’s just talk about immigration because that’s what I’m an expert in. From an immigration standpoint and especially from border security and illegal immigration he’s going to the extreme left and that’s not what the public wanted him to do. So, I don’t know that he necessarily wants to encourage people to cross but he is definitely pandering to the extreme left right now.

Carmichael: When you say catch and release we’re talking about now adults without children. At least that’s what I’m asking about. So they’re caught and they are released. Where do they go?

Judd: So not all adults are released. That’s going to be the smallest segment of what gets released. The numbers of people are being released right now are mainly family units because we’re still able to put adults into Title 42 and expel them immediately. The problem is the Biden administration has opened up different classes.

And so if you’re not going to expel Haitians, if you’re not going to accept Cubans if you’re not going to expel Venezuelans, that’s where you’re going to see the people coming from. And so once you create classes, of course, those are the people that you’re going to see crossing the border illegally. But to answer your question when we release them, they go everywhere.

They go everywhere in the United States. Just to give an example back in the late 90s early 2000s when we were getting flooded with people from Brazil the vast majority of those individuals that were coming across were either going to Georgia or Boston. We see them cross the border illegally and they go throughout the United States. You name it and they’re going there.

Leahy: Brandon Judd the President of the National Border Patrol Council. The labor union of 18,000 border patrol agents here that serve the United States border patrol. What is your recommendation to solve this crisis and will the Biden administration follow your suggestions?

Judd: So it’s pretty simple. This isn’t rocket science. All you have to do is look at what the Trump administration was able to do. Once you get rid of catch-and-release if people know that they’re not going to be released into the United States they’re going to stop coming. President Trump was able to drop illegal immigration to 45-year lows twice during his presidency at different points.

What the Biden administration needs to do is they would set up courts if they would hire immigration judges and they would hold people in custody pending their asylum hearing this would stop. The vast majority of people come across the border and claim asylum. They do not qualify for that asylum relief here in the United States and so they should be going back.

But because judges don’t hold them in custody and send them back immediately that’s that magnet that brings them in. So we have to hold them in custody. We have to put them through their asylum proceedings. And if somebody does in fact qualify for asylum, then we need to let them into the United States, but if they don’t they must be removed.

And if we do that, we will stop we will get rid of that magnet. It will be done once and for all. And then border patrol agents will be able to focus on the criminal element that’s on the border. The cartels the drugs that are coming across the special interest countries of aliens are coming across the criminal aliens that are coming across. We will be able to focus on that and we will be able to protect the American public.

Leahy: Last question. We’ve got one minute here, Brandon Judd will the Biden administration do what you suggest?

Judd: I am confident in Secretary Mayorkas. He does know this issue. Whether the Biden ministration is going to listen to their own secretary. That’s another question. We’ll have to see.

Leahy: Well come back and tell us in a few months whether or not they’ve followed your advice. Brandon Judd the President of the National Border Patrol Council. Thanks so much for joining us.

Judd: Thanks for having me. Have a good day.

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