Live from Music Row Tuesday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed Jackson County, Texas Sheriff, AJ ‘Andy’ Louderback to the newsmakers line to discuss the chaos at America’s southern border and the Biden’s administration’s denial of it.
Leahy: I’m excited to welcome on our newsmaker line. Our friend, Sheriff AJ Louderback from I guess it’s Jackson County, Texas. Sheriff, welcome to The Tennessee Star Report.
Louderback: Thank you, Sir. I appreciate you invited me to say a few words this morning. Thank you.
Leahy: Well, look, we met two years ago in Washington, D.C., and had a great conversation there. It’s been a bad two years for border control, hasn’t it?
Louderback: It’s the worst we’ve ever seen in the history here at the southern border here with Texas. We haven’t experienced anything like what we’re seeing today from the effects of the policies of the Biden administration and the chaos and destruction they’ve created.
Leahy: Here’s my question to you as a Sheriff enforcing the laws of the state of Texas, you look at the failure of the Biden administration to enforce our federal immigration laws. And my question to you is, is this intentional on their part? And what impact does it have on you?
Louderback: Michael, it’s not just intentional. It’s strategic. It’s planned, it’s operational. It’s a very concerted effort. Probably a year or more prior to there’s evidence of a year or more prior to the Biden administration taking office and anticipation of the implementation of the policy changes to completely gut the INA were more clearly done on purpose to achieve exactly what we are doing today and we see every day.
So this is not anything that is haphazard. They were told repeatedly. It was written by senior staff of CBP. And if you do this, this is what you’re going to do. There is ample evidence of that from the directors at CBP.
People have been there for 30 plus years, true experts in border security told this administration repeatedly meeting after meeting what was going to happen if they persisted in doing this to the United States?
Leahy: The Biden administration knew this would happen, right?
Leahy: So as a Sheriff there, what recourse do you have against a federal administration that is violating federal law?
Louderback: Well, not much. Really the first duty here for most of us is to inform. I mean, that’s what most of us are trying to do. When the American people are uninformed or misinformed we don’t get any results at all.
And we see the results of that. We’re in the informed stage right now urging governments, state governments, to go to work here and try to alter these policies or trying to get them to all these policies, which is exactly what Governor Greg Abbott is doing in Texas.
Leahy: Now, you mentioned Governor Abbott. There was a big press conference where he said, we’re going to build a wall of our own and we’re going to arrest people that come across it. Now, that’s a good thought. How practical is that?
Louderback: The complexity of finishing portions of the wall exists. The ability for the state of Texas to strategically place the resources necessary to start filing criminal trespass and the child endangerment charges would probably two most prevalent other than human trafficking, smuggling.
The state of Texas put a ton of resources and over a billion dollars dedicated to some different changes. And, of course, there’s a special session coming up legislatively that would go along with the declaration of disaster that he has done.
These things, we hope, will start to turn. And, of course, one most significant thing, Michael was the signing of the Emergency Management Assistance Compact in Arizona. So as these movements build, where we see more and more states coming on board, where federal policies are destructive to states, we’ll see where this goes.
But it’s obviously moving in the right direction for the rule of law and for us to try and have some recourse to the border issue and to the national security issue and border security.
Leahy: What does this do to the morale of your department and your employees when you see that you’re being undermined?
Louderback: Well, in our business, we’ve been under attack before the Biden administration took office. We’ve been subjected to all types of things, from the funding to qualified immunity to just outright racist attacks that every law enforcement officer in the United States is a complete racist.
Which is absolutely wrong. But we’ve got to keep our heads up. I don’t like falling into that kind of trap like that. We’re going to do our job here. We’re going to keep our heads up. We’re going to enforce the law as we know and keep citizens safe.
And that’s what we have to do. Yes. It’s demoralizing. It’s more demoralizing for the men and women of the border patrol working there. Imagine working there or any job that you had in the United States. It’s no different than a County Sheriff saying to his deputies I’ll tell you what? (Inaudible talk) We’re not going to accept any cases. I don’t want you to arrest anyone unless they are .20.
Leahy: We’ll just make up that new law, right?
Louderback: Yeah. We’ll just make that up. That’s a policy now for us.
Leahy: By the way, what did Vice President Kamala Harris say when she went down to the border and visit with you? (Laughter) That’s a joke.
Louderback: Yeah. Understood. She won’t go to the border. Going to the border with her, she’s obviously unable to find it would simply prove that there’s a problem there, and they don’t see it as a problem. They don’t want the American public to see it as a problem.
Leahy: They think we’re really pretty stupid, don’t they? (Louderback chuckles) Well, I know you are measured in your statements, Sheriff. I can say that.
Louderback: Let’s move onto other questions. Regarding the Vice President, I think it’s pretty obvious as to what’s going on here.
Leahy: (Laughs) Yes, I can do that. And we won’t give you a hard time about it. Jackson County. Is that right between, like, McCallen and Corpus Christi? Is that where it is?
Louderback: Just passed Corpus. We’re on the geographical major corridor into Houston, Texas, which is, of course, a huge magnet for all time. Whether it’s narcotics or human trafficking or human smuggling.
Leahy: You have what? 12,000 residents. How many residents of the county?
Louderback: We’re just under 20,000. Under 20,000. I remember that now. Have you seen an uptick in this travel going through your county by illegal aliens in the past five months?
Louderback: (Inaudible talk) The bailouts, the crashes, they’ve stolen vehicles, license plates, the increased methamphetamine, increased fentanyl. There’s not an agency around me that doesn’t have increased narcotic issues. The empowerment of the cartel has been done.
Leahy: Nothing says safety and security of citizens of Jackson County, Texas like a Biden administration that won’t enforce immigration laws. Right, Sheriff?
Louderback: Yes, sir. You got it.
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Live from Music Row Monday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed special guest Brandon Judd, President of the National Border Patrol Council to the newsmakers line to discuss the man-made crisis at America’s Southern border.
Leahy: We are delighted to have on our newsmaker line, Brandon Judd, the President of the National Border Patrol Council which represents all of the folks that are there and our Border Patrol agents on the border. Welcome, Brandon. Thanks for joining us.
Judd: Always good to be with you. Thank you.
Leahy: Well, I know you’re just waiting breathlessly for Vice President Kamala Harris to go down to the border and take a look at this. It’s been how many days? It’s been 80 days now since she’s been charged with doing this by the President and have you seen her yet?
Judd: I’m holding my breath, and I think I’m going to die first. (Leahy laughs)
Leahy: How do your members look at this kind of silliness from the Biden Harris administration? This kind of disdain for the job you do. How do you do your job every day in that environment?
Judd: It becomes very difficult. every time we put on a uniform and we go out and we try to do our job we know that we just don’t have an administration behind us that cares about the American public and that cares that we’re able to secure the border.
Vice President Harris, the other day, said that she’s an advocate for illegal aliens. She’s advocating for lawlessness. How can you put on a uniform and go out to try to do the job when you know that the administration is actively trying to support those people that you’re trying to keep out of the country to protect the American citizen?
Leahy: That’s a very interesting point. It’s almost like Alison in Wonderland kind of stuff, right? This is like the counter to logic, counter to what they’re supposed to be doing. To me, I don’t know.
I hear the Vice President say something like that and I think is this person trying to subvert the immigration laws of the United States?
Judd: It certainly looks that way when you consider that in the first five months of this administration, nearly 500,000 illegal immigrants have been allowed to get into the United States.
It’s crazy when you consider that we’ve had nearly 200,000 people that have been able to cross the border illegally and evade apprehension. Those are what we call got aways. Nearly 200,000 people have been able to get away.
And then on top of that, nearly 300,000 people have been released under the catch and release program. That’s 500,000 people in five months that have been added to the 11,000,000 illegal alien population that’s already here in the United States. That’s crazy! In five months, think about what’s going to happen over four years.
Leahy: I’m going to tell you how I see this, and I’d just like to get your reaction to it. We have immigration laws on the books, and the President and the Vice President are charged with enforcing those immigration laws.
To me, it looks like they are actually trying to subvert those laws. When a President and Vice President look to subvert those laws, it seems to me that that is a high crime and misdemeanor, and it’s an impeachable offense. That’s what it looks like to me.
Judd: As a federal employee, I can’t comment on that. I just can’t go there. But what I can tell you is that the immigration laws just are not being enforced the way Congress intended them to be enforced.
And when you consider that both Vice President Harris and President Biden, were both in Congress and they both helped pass the laws that we’re currently supposed to enforce it’s insane to think that they’re using what’s called prosecutorial discretion to create the current disaster that we have on the border.
When you consider that they’ve said that ICE can only arrest and deport people that have committed serious felonies, they’ve basically made every single city in the United States a sanctuary city.
If a local police department pulls somebody over for drunk driving and they’re in the United States illegally, and they call ICE, well, drunk driving isn’t one of those crimes that ICE can then go take them into custody, then they’re going to then have to release them.
That’s an illegal alien that we knew was in the country that ICE can’t go pick up. In essence, we’ve created sanctuary cities throughout the entire United States through what’s called prosecutorial discretion.
Leahy: So where does our country go on these issues?
Judd: I mean, we have to look at and we have to say, let’s go to the polls. We have to. If we don’t go to the polls, then we’re going to continue to see what’s currently happening. We have to be willing to look at and elect those people that care more about the citizens of the United States than they do about the citizens outside of the United States.
We elect people to look out for our interests, not the interests of people that are not here in this country or aren’t citizens of this country.
Leahy: Governor Greg Abbott of Texas announced over the weekend his intent to build a wall and have the state build a wall and to arrest any illegal aliens that they find. What do you make of that?
Judd: I’m grateful that we have governors that are willing to step up. We have to look at what’s been going on when border patrol’s resources are being pulled out of the field because we’re being overwhelmed by what we call getaways, those people that cross the border and basically wave their hands in the air, say, here I am, I’m going to claim asylum.
What happens is we pull so much of our resources out of the field to process those individuals that we create these artificial gaps that criminal cartels can then cross their higher-value products.
Whether that’s drugs, whether that’s criminal aliens, whether that’s aliens from special interest countries, it creates these gaps. Governor Abbott has sent DPS down to the border to help fill those gaps, and they’ve done a phenomenal job.
So he’s just looking at more solutions to try to get this crisis under control there in Texas. I wish other governors would step up to the plate and do the same thing that he’s doing.
Leahy: You anticipated my next question when you say, other governors. There are four states that border the Mexican border, going East to West. Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California.
Greg Abbott is a Republican. I think the New Mexico governor is a Democrat. Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, Republican. California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat. Compare and contrast, those four governors and their policies towards the border.
Judd: So the two Arizona governors, Governor Ducey in Arizona, that’s my home state. And then, of course, Governor Abbott in Texas, they’ve both been willing to acknowledge that this is, in fact, a crisis.
They’ve both been out there saying this is a complete and total disaster. This is a man-made disaster. This could have been controlled, but this administration came in and reversed several policies that were working programs that got the border under control.
And they’ve done more obviously, than the Democrats governors in New Mexico and California. Governor Abbott has done more than Ducey. But Ducey has the resources that he has. He’s called up the Arizona National Guard.
He sent them to the border. So they are doing something. This is a federal government problem. And they just don’t have the necessary resources. The federal government, they do have the resources. They’re just not doing anything.
Leahy: And again, how many members are in the National Border Patrol Council?
Judd: 12,500 Border Patrol agents are members of the National Border Patrol Council.
Leahy: My cousin worked I think it was in Nogales, Arizona as a Border Patrol agent. And he’s retired now. I came from way upstate New York, and a lot of our folks worked as Border Patrol agents on the New York-Quebec border.
That’s kind of where they got started. And that was his background. And I’m telling you, he felt that this was a very, very difficult job. He retired about five years ago. So has a job gotten better or worse in the past five years or particularly the past five months? Let’s go with that.
Judd: It’s more difficult when you have a President that supports you. Under the Trump administration, the job was more difficult, but it was more fulfilling because we knew that we were doing a good job.
Under this administration, this job is easy because they don’t let her do anything. But it’s not fulfilling. We want to protect the American public and this administration is not letting us do it.
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